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166665.231 in reply to 166665.227
Date: 7/13/2011 3:10:24 PM
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Teams with over or at about 500K in salaries, 5th is probably better if they have no shot at winning the 1st round game.
Teams under 400K in salaries and playing in a big arena(20,000K or more) 600K at 33& is only 200K..4th is probably better due to the experience gains and merchandising bonus if there is one...That is what I think.


5th is better also for trading with players, you can speculate buying players and not paying his salary, it's another source of incomes that you are not saying.

If a manager is smart enough he can earn 0,5M-1M with trading during this period.

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166665.233 in reply to 166665.14
Date: 7/15/2011 2:45:54 AM
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You may be correct that it is supposed to help fan survey, but let me give you my situation from this season.

I finished 4th...could have tanked the last game to finish 5th but decided not to. Here is the breakdown:

Salary paid for the extra week: $240k

Income from 1 playoff game: $70k

Playoff Outcome: 40 point loss due to me trying outlandish tactics to see if I could pull a miracle. Should have lost by 15 if I played normal tactics.

Current Fan Survey: 2.5 balls
I am pleased with the team's performance this season: 2.5 balls

WTH right??? I mean my fan survey was 3.5 balls on pleased with the team's performance prior to the playoff game. Then i get beat and it goes down to 2.5 balls. So basically assuming that this translates equally to next season (which it has in the past) I am getting screwed not only financially, but also on my fan survey which will translate into next season.

How the hell can any of you say that it is better to make the playoffs and get beat in the first round then it is to finish 5th??? Most times you lose a playoff game you lose favor on your fan survey, but you don't if you are idle. Someone please tell me why it was smart to lose $170k in the current season and screw the fan survey for the next season by finishing 4th. Are you going to sell me on season ticket holders? Hell no, it isn't a big enough change to matter and is overshadowed by the fan survey detriment.

Okay, end rant.

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166665.235 in reply to 166665.233
Date: 7/15/2011 3:10:19 AM
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WTH right??? I mean my fan survey was 3.5 balls on pleased with the team's performance prior to the playoff game. Then i get beat and it goes down to 2.5 balls. So basically assuming that this translates equally to next season (which it has in the past) I am getting screwed not only financially, but also on my fan survey which will translate into next season.


I know it's a drop in the sea, but if you tanked last game to be 5th, you wouldn't have 3.5 balls entering playoff week, but 2.5 balls or less. Right?


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166665.236 in reply to 166665.235
Date: 7/15/2011 3:15:04 AM
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Possibly, but it didn't fluctuate that much during the regular season either. I could have easily lost the previous game and won the last game and still finished 5th, which would be the smart thing to do and then more than likely I'm sitting higher than 2.5...which I believe I would have been if I lost the last game of the regular season as well. If you are in the playoffs you shouldn't drop a full ball because of a loss. You should only be able to gain at that point for the category of being pleased with the current season. It makes zero sense for your fans to be less pleased when you lose a playoff game you should lose.


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166665.237 in reply to 166665.236
Date: 7/15/2011 6:11:13 AM
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Possibly, but it didn't fluctuate that much during the regular season either. I could have easily lost the previous game and won the last game and still finished 5th, which would be the smart thing to do and then more than likely I'm sitting higher than 2.5...which I believe I would have been if I lost the last game of the regular season as well. If you are in the playoffs you shouldn't drop a full ball because of a loss. You should only be able to gain at that point for the category of being pleased with the current season. It makes zero sense for your fans to be less pleased when you lose a playoff game you should lose.




biut those 2,5 ball are different calculated then the balls for "the last" season next season, so maybe you loose some income in merch next week, but you gain extra visitor and merchandise income the full next season.

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166665.238 in reply to 166665.237
Date: 7/15/2011 7:49:39 AM
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Are you sure? Because mine has carried over from previous season to current season many times. In fact I finished 3rd in the previous season and lost in the first round yet i still have 2.5 balls for the "I am pleased with the team's performance last season" category.

So it seems you made a conjecture without proof and made it sound like fact. I wish you were right, but in my case you are definitely not.

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166665.239 in reply to 166665.238
Date: 7/15/2011 8:03:07 AM
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i had often more then one ball difference, after loosing the finals the survey is also down and made it often to the second place.

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166665.241 in reply to 166665.240
Date: 7/15/2011 10:48:54 AM
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+1. I was about to post that! =)

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