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254079.231 in reply to 254079.201
Date: 1/13/2014 9:32:13 AM
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@ Steve Karenn, and you're not a Supporter right? I rest my case...

So what? This doesn't change anything about cheating issue. And yes, cheating yet exist, and secondary team will only amplify this pheonomenon, so instead of compaining with non-supporters for not agreeing with you and BB for such an awful idea, you can help with some solutions for that issue to make then eventually acceptable to introduce a secondary team


Or eliminate the NT entirely. There's a whole lot of handwringing about "sabotage" this, "farm team" that, over soemthing that's relatively inconsequential to the core game experience. Make the game itself better for the people who want to play it, and the people who are going to cheat for the sideshow of NT games can now find something better to do with their time.

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254079.232 in reply to 254079.213
Date: 1/13/2014 9:34:17 AM
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Firstly, I see that you guys are working hard and care about the users and the game. Regardless of the outcome of this proposal (and future proposals), your hard work and dedication is appreciated.

To the issue at hand, there are going to be so many restrictions, and different rules, that it will be a bit odd to play a game that now has different rules and restrictions for different teams. With one team per user, every team is playing by the same rules. Adding the secondary team would then add (hundreds? Thousands?) of new teams that are playing by a different set of rules regarding where they are allowed to draft, who they are allowed to bid on in the transfer markets, how far they can climb the BB ranks etc ... It will add a weird dynamic to what is now a simple system where everyone plays by the same rules. If/when secondary teams become some of the best teams in the game, playing in the top division will lose some of its luster, because you know that you aren't necessarily playing against the best.

If you are going to allow secondary teams, I think they should be allowed in with as few restrictions as possible and play by the honor system and users policing themselves. If some issues of cheating become such a problem, you can implement official restrictions as you go. Just my two cents.

Last edited by Big Chief Triangle at 1/13/2014 9:36:13 AM

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254079.234 in reply to 254079.232
Date: 1/13/2014 9:44:17 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
If you are going to allow secondary teams, I think they should be allowed in with as few restrictions as possible and play by the honor system and users policing themselves. If some issues of cheating become such a problem, you can implement official restrictions as you go


Amen

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254079.235 in reply to 254079.229
Date: 1/13/2014 9:49:14 AM
Legendy Wrocław
PLK
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well
if I understood supporter package, there are a few nice extras. Additives, which never gave the real advantage over the other user. In other words, all users have equal chances.
At a time when this change will come, supporters will be able to acquire new knowledge on the game engine by building alternative team. and this is just what I mean by saying they would be privileged

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254079.236 in reply to 254079.235
Date: 1/13/2014 9:51:44 AM
Headless Thompson Gunners
Naismith
Overall Posts Rated:
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Second Team:
Canada Purple Haze BC
What new knowledge?
Seriously, I have had supporter for a few years and don't even use private league
you can get as much out of that
I think there's a whole lot of paranoia out there
chill man

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254079.237 in reply to 254079.227
Date: 1/13/2014 10:10:00 AM
Fab Five
II.3
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Second Team:
Fabulous Five
1. I don't understand people saying suporter or a second team gives you an advantage. I pay supporter because I want and I can, it's not needed at all.
2. People is already cheating if they want, even to have another team. Dont see why a second proper team makes it worse.
3. If you want to stop people messing with the transfer list, you could forbid second teams to buy players. That way, it is very unlikely they are a threat for local teams and you dont neeed B3 or other restrictions. Also good for NT.
3. Some people want to have a second team. They even want to pay for it. I don't see any good reason for BB not to make it possible.
4. When I started to play this game (VI league) it was really hard to promote from V to IV league. It took me like 5 seasons and it was really competive. Going further up seemed to be an impossible quest. I enjoy it. My point is that I think its better to compete against real managers rather than bots.
5. I really would like to have a youth team somewhat related with my main team, so I can train and at some point promote players. Please, someone wiser than me, develop this idea.
6. Anyway, if I have some kind of a second team, I would like to train players, so I dont agree with restrictions in the draft.

Last edited by Fab Five manager at 1/13/2014 10:10:23 AM

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254079.238 in reply to 254079.237
Date: 1/13/2014 10:39:25 AM
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I think every game needs little innovations occasionally. In this way you keep the passion for it alive; all the changes of season 26 were in this direction and they were good.
But this is a revolution: BB will not be the same game anymore. And I like the way it is now.

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254079.239 in reply to 254079.238
Date: 1/13/2014 10:58:45 AM
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I don't agree..I voted no. It's unfair only Supporters to have this feature!! There are some users that can't or they don't want to have a Support package. It's unfair for the rest users. They have already a lot of features that can make their game more excite than the game of those that have a simple account. I think that this feature must be established for all. Otherwise for no one

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254079.240 in reply to 254079.239
Date: 1/13/2014 11:14:33 AM
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They have already a lot of features that can make their game more excite than the game of those that have a simple account.

*edit reading is hard ;)
I would like to know which supporter feature makes the game more exciting? I just bought supporter because I wanted to award the developers for their work. Besides that there is not a single reason for me to renew it.

A second team on the other hand is such a reason to renew it.

Last edited by m0nkey at 1/13/2014 11:20:50 AM

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254079.241 in reply to 254079.224
Date: 1/13/2014 11:21:49 AM
Spartan 300
II.2
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Second Team:
Spartan Kids
I'm positive surprised of the conversation here, lot of people come to discuss and that's a big + for us. I like to hear others opinion too, and if BB-s make this future we should help them to make it better.

Hmm, interesting question, don't know what to say, but if I must chose, I would chose to win some trophy in my country. If they have 20-30 users already so there will not be bots (or lot of them) in 1st league.

Those who play in nations with less users that I mention, they really have a problem, they bored I guess and they need some active players ofc. There should be some limit how many foreign users can come to one micro nation.

This is where we hold them!
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