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I don't really like the first idea because of the training. What's the point of having bench players that the maximum salary that they can achieve is like 10k? Most of the teams would have only 1 player with more than 25k which would not be very good IMO. I mean this isn't the NBA.

The second idea with some adjustments is good. But 5M for promoting is way too much.

Well, in my opinion, Team Chemistry is a good idea but not that way. Team Chemistry can be used as a disadvantage for the day-traders. If the players are friends with each other (same nationality) or are in the team for a long period together (2-3 seasons) then the Team Chemistry is good (Spurs). However, if a team is day-trading all the time, the players can't get along each other and the chemistry is bad (Clippers).

I think it is virtually (get it?) impossible to keep every country on a level playing field as the previous poster suggested. I look at international competition as just a cool extra aspect of the game, with the true focus being on improving your team and succeeding in your own country.

I agree, it's hard to do that I don't want to discuss about a discussion borned in season 3 even if you must admit that to keep high the competition you need good players and if somone coming from Cayman Island decided to buy them we cannot do anything. Going back about today TL situation for sure there are a lot of factors linked to the economy but I think that BBs made a wrong calculation at the beginning of this season. I trained young players as SF not pushing a single skill and I had more or less 90k/week more as salary cost versus only +20k/week TV contract (my merch is frozen). I think to the teams that trained players with 100k/week salary, they for sure have a disadvantage compare to last season and some of them could lose moeny week by week.
This is not a problem per se, paying a player 100 or 1000 doesn't change a lot the economy but your biz plan is killed if for a lot of reasons the player goes from 100 to 1000 this season, then from 1000 to 333 next season and so on. My opinion is that in this moment we are waiting for a BBs intervention that will put more money on the system, if this will happen if you sell now without re-buy a player you will suffer a big loss

Last edited by ned at 7/28/2010 5:28:46 PM

Team chemistry, like said before would give an even higher advantage to older teams -> thus making catch up even harder than it is now. I believe that is not what BB's want to do. Day traders can be punished with more tax if needed.

I agree. Selling a player only to sit on that money will cost you. But, I also feel it comes with the territory. For example, I promoted to DII last season, and bought 2 expensive players. Now, not if, but when I get relegated, they will sell for much, much cheaper and I will have lost money, but if I had promoted this year, I would be in a great position to stay up and have a good squad, so I think those players won't be complaining about the economy as much, as they got great value with their promotion money.

BB's wanted to avoid pouring more money into the system. When they did that we had crazy prices and going up. They needed to fix it and did, with bringing free agents back in, to take that excess money out of the system.
What would be the point of bringing that excess money into the system again? If you raise the income of all teams, then you still make less money than a team from Cayman Island. If that team "steals" a player from the transfer list, which actually was never your player to begin with, then you should stick to players you can buy, not worry about thouse you could not buy. I agree it's hard to buy players with near 0 balance, but if we raise your div income by 100k, then in a little while every team in your division has upgraded their players to be competitive and your salary total has raised by 100k. So in conclusion we would be in the same spot again. You writing in the forums how more money should be inserted in the system.
If we would give just the big countrys a significant raise on every level, then we ensure that no small country team can ever prevail in international competition. At the moment we can have any team from any country capable of getting to B3 level, it takes longer for teams in big countrys to get to that position, but EVERYONE can still get there. If you get to that level, it does not matter how much more money Cayman Island team makes in a week than you, why? because if he makes more, then his team is weaker, if he has the same level team then you actually are also on the same level in TL capabilitys, the additional merc income should somewhat balance his constant win record.
I have always said that you should train for your team, not for selling, that's how you can protect yourself from nasty surprises. There is a difference between can't sell and don't want to sell. You fall into that second category.
I find it surprising that a team that concentrates on Cup results (finals and semifinals last seasons), says he can't compete in his own league. Perhaps with concentrating on your league success you could have been back in the div1 by now?

Last edited by Kukoc at 7/28/2010 6:08:00 PM

I think that would not be great problems for BBB,because the difference among the first divisions all over the world is quickly closing up,and so the difference in a possible new system,as everyone can see from the TV contract all over the world,so it's not a real argument;among the top users the only that could be really penalized is Superfly(I would be sorry,I have nothing against him,it would be his country to being too weak)


The mistake that BBs make last time that they pump up money in the system,was exactly to not calculate that giving money to everyone independently from their economic situation,would only boost the prices without really change the equilibrium on the market to penalize less than in the previous situation the users of big countries,especially in lower divisions,that was the original goal of BBs(I think)

The incomes have not to be raised for everyone at the same level,it should work on the max arena attendance,if italian league is more competitive than the X league,if the X league has a max attendenc of 10000 people in the III division,the italian III division should have a 12000 max attendence(these are not precise numbers,its only an example),so the best team in the III division would have the incomes for 12000 peolpe,the worst the incomes of 10000 people and so on...

In the actual system,there's yet a practically hard cap,because there's a max in incomes that you can reach if all the variables are at the max(fans survey,adequate prices at the palace and so on)
That max should be raised in the different way in the various leagues,looking at the competitivity of the league...the only thing to be chosen is the way to calculate the competitivity of the leagues,which is a difficutl thing to do
Country rank surely isn't a good way to calculate the competitivity of a league,the random cup draw or the different choices about cup in the various league would influence too much the incomes of the various leaguje
Overall team skills could be put in the mix,but not as the only factor,because you can do very different value on some skills,especially on secondary skills,which often make the difference between similar players and teams;the same speech is for salaries and evaluations....but I think there should be the BBs to find the formula,we as users have to give the ideas,they have the duty to develop them ;D

(150570.2) Actually the strongest leagues TV contract has improved more than the lower leagues. For example German teams make more 70k+ more money from tv contract per week than Japanese teams + because of better quality in the league, their merc income could (lol insert NT self drafted player here) be higher aswell + as a big country there are more german players on the TL etc,etc...

Germany is an exception also among the big countries,if you see well,Bulgaria Cyprus and Iceland grow more than Italian Serie A,Holland and Estonia grow at the same pace
But the point is that while the big country are near to the max,the other users have room to grow,If our TV contract rise up,is because the overall Tv contract all over the world rise up,not because Italian I division grow

P.S. I think it's stupid that ther's only a TV contract for all the season,many teams make movements after the draft,so there should be an update of the TV contract at least at the ASG break