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From: LA-Ho3ein

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275697.235 in reply to 275697.234
Date: 4/7/2016 8:39:22 AM
Shahin.Boushehr
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Let me just say that the idea of merging the small nations together is absolutely RIDICULOUS !!

It hasn't been officially announced, but everybody knows that it's happening. I don't know about other nations, but the most important thing that is keeping the users in my country (Iran) to keep playing is the nice little community that we have formed throughout the years. Many keep playing the game not because of the game itself, but because of the friends that they have made. As I said, I'm strictly talking about my nation, Iran. It is the friendly rivals and games that keep many in the game. Iran is not a small nation (I mean that geographically), but many of the managers actually meet each other in real life. I myself buy some products of the online store of one of my friends who has a team in the game. I'm saying all this to stress the importance of the community and to tell you that most of the pleasure we get is by interacting with friends. If small nations were to merge, this would be impossible. One of the thing that actually got me to sign up in the first place was that I saw my countries flag in the game. If I wanted to play with managers of some other nations, I would have bought the second team option and joined Utopia !! That's my first and most important point.

Secondly, many managers in my country, including myself, have planned the future of their team with regards to the way our nations is in BB. Some former top league champions have decided to lay low for a while as they are training their trainees, some are going all out for domination in their respective leagues, so merging the nation with other nations would definitely mess up what they have planned for their teams. We Iranians are extremely proud of our country and as small as we may be in BB, we have plans as community to improve our nation in many ways. Our national teams are an example of what we have planned and worked on for so long. We achieved a small portion of what we had in mind a couple of seasons ago as Iran NT became the champions of continental competition for the first time (this was made possible by the efforts of the amazing former B3 champion, Sahand, the manager of I Love Tehran). We are still working on different projects regarding our national teams, youth training, international competition in B3 as I am writing this.

Because of all that I stated above, merging the small nations, or at least my own nation with other countries will only lead to more users leaving the game. This people would be the more serious and more experienced managers such as the two time B3 champion, Misagh Alizadeh, the manager of Venomous Scorpions.

What I'm trying to say is that the idea is completely non-sense and I believe it will have a negative impact on the game.

Instead of merging small nations, why not work on better advertising so there is no need for small nations to merge in the first place !! If there is one of course ....

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275697.236 in reply to 275697.235
Date: 4/7/2016 8:57:04 AM
Greensboro Generals
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The reason micro's are a issue for some is because of the inequity compared to macro's in terms of the quality of the teams, with 56 users in Iran it is a lot easier to build a high quality team than in the USA where there are around 1300.


The most successful sports league on the planet is the NFL, why? PARITY. Right now on the game there are huge pockets of disparity, like Spanish soccer level of disparity. More parity will attract and retain more users.

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275697.238 in reply to 275697.237
Date: 4/7/2016 9:50:41 AM
Durham Wasps
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C: Let the people who want out out. THis isn't on you, but if someone in your nation disagrees with you and wants out of Iran. If they would rather play a real level of competition, they should be allowed to leave. Current BB policy is they have to play in Iran if they live there or in a close country that has no nation of their own. That is bogus. This really is my personal biggest problem with micro. IF htey want to leave Japan, Iran etc....FINE...At LEAST let me out!! It sucks to play no competition! IT sucks to have meaningless b3 ticket you never really could earn.

Sorry for snipping the rest, but I really hope you get your wish. I was thinking earlier about a possible way that could work. I don't see why you (or anyone else, and I'm sure there are many) should have to start over. Perhaps if you could transfer to a new country, with your current bank balance and stadium, but possibly with a similar set of starting players as new starters get. I haven't really thought that through but on first glance it seems fair to me.


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275697.240 in reply to 275697.239
Date: 4/7/2016 10:52:33 AM
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Well if they let people out, they certainly need to start over in the new nation. Transferring grandfathered accounts would be ridiculous.

For the Iranian guy, I fully understand him. That is my worst expectation, that - and that matches with the stereotype of Americans who are insensitive to cultural differences and nuances - countries will be merged by the criteria of matching timezones/geographical proximity can be huge trouble...

Iran could be put in the same box with a handful of countries it is ...not to say at war, but at bad terms. Same for Ukraine and Russia, Pakistan + India, Japan + Taiwan + China... Bad moves mostly...

Buzzerbeater is like a swordfight. You must think first before you move.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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Date: 4/7/2016 11:00:56 AM
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I'm thinking lets wait to see what they have cooking. Patience. Its coming soon. They shoudl say something...
anythign!


I hope for the best, but fear the worst.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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275697.244 in reply to 275697.243
Date: 4/7/2016 3:49:14 PM
Shahin.Boushehr
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@coachlambini

It took me about 2 years to get to Iran's top division, so i think that I've paid my dues. The notion that it is easier to build high quality teams in smaller nations is just not true. At least not in Iran. New teams still have to work their way up, build up their arenas, lay foundations, and get their finances right to be able to compete at a high level nationally, let alone internationally!!! All this takes a lot of time no matter which country you play in. What I mean that laying the foundations for a quality team is expensive and time-consuming no matter where you play. It took me around 10 season to get to my countries top division, and if you check the team history of Yourkville BC which plays in USA's top division currently, it took him/her 11 seasons ! You can take a look at different teams at different leagues all over the world. A number of factors weigh in, but each team's progress has mostly to do with the manager and his/her capabilities. For example we have a first time top division team (just like Yourkville BC in the USA) this season in Iran, who has been playing for 13 seasons. I think you can see my point here.


@Trainerman

Your argument is completely irrational !!!! How is us accepting a DIII as our top league fair ? I mean you're saying that teams in small nations have an unfair advantage. Let's say for the sake of the discussion that this is true. So by you're logic, if it's easy for a new team in Iran ( a country with 56 users) to build a high quality team, then it would be much much easier for a same new team to do so in Ecuador or Nigeria or South Korea (respectively with 5, 8, and 3 users). Then how come we have no B3 champions from these so called "small nations" who have "an unfair advantage" ??? 29 times the B3 has been held and during this time, the champion has almost always been from a country with high number of users. The only exceptions are season 10 champion from Japan, season 20 champion from Moldova, and season 16, 24, and 27 champions from Iran. The rest has always been from a country with high number of users which according to you are at a disadvantage compared to the "small nations"!! Or for example let's take a look at Scotland with 14 users. Why is it that the best they have achieved is a B3 semifinalist in season 24 during the history of B3 competitions? I'm telling you this, just to make you realize how ridiculous your argument is. KK Mordor was clearly at a disadvantage when he 3peated from season 30 to 32 in B3 (Who is by the way from Srbija with 480 users). How about the team Dionysus which was clearly affected by the market and staff being dominated by users from small nations as he won the B3 3 times (from china which currently has around 700 users) !! LOL

Give it a rest man. OK ?

:D


@Knecht

You're exactly spot on with the point about cultural differences and the matchmaking of these mergings !!

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