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I'm not sure whether the people that ask me to prove it actually want me to show examples of why it works or just want to keep screaming that it's impossible to run 2-3.

Just in case you guys really do have an open mind and want to think about these things, I'll post some stuff below. If there's a 0% chance that you'll be convinced that 2-3 is useful in ANY situation, please say so and I can start doing useful things with my time again.

In this match I just played against a team that I normally have trouble beating, that has more salary than I do and more expensive bigs. With a MTM my SF would only cover the SF so I thought I could use the added defense against those bigs as well and I believe my SB helped extra as well with 7 blocks. Based on my history in the DBA I don't think I would have won here with a regular MTM. (62741943).

I don't use 2-3 that often either. But here and in season 20 to 23 when De Headless Chickens was in my league it was a good option. (once again I'm not saying it always works....and my SB is not that high yet and still needs to develop further)

Combine this with the facts that Nachtmahr showed about SB in:

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And with the general assumption on these forums that SB improves in a zone defence in BB.


I hope this has made some of you at least consider the possibility that 2-3 is an offence that sometimes can be used. Wolph you can test it out more in your PL/federation.



Last edited by Tesse at 10/1/2013 3:02:50 AM

Yeah the build in my team is not good enough yet either. I think my SF is fine for it (assuming he doesn't need that high SB) but my PF and C are still underdeveloped in SB (although they have at least some of it).

And you are correct in that 2-3 might work even better against LP since they attack even more down low and less with jumpshots. But I think in my old games against DHC I also defended succesfully against LI (he had the worst outside shooting so I only used it against him or unsuccesfully against CSP when I was desperate because he was better).

I'm already in a fun PL so I can't help with your federation but the idea sounds good (albeit a bit difficult due to gameshape) so I'd improve the samplesize a bit and compare only 2-3 and MTM at first. But I like the idea.

So guys, about that 2-3 zone...

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My team's not even playing that game Wolph.

But here's my counterpoint: can you prove you won't win that game by less, or even lose, with 3-2 or MtM?

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 10/1/2013 6:39:26 AM

Sadly , with the recent history of 2-3 zone on this game , i would say the burden of proof lies with you in this case.

Wolph you just failed a spot check.

THAT WAS AN ABBL GAME

Thing is isolated examples shouldn't count, they are countless :)
Maybe 2-3 hadn't worked here (62743514) checking the shots of the 3 perimeter guys. Maybe 3-2 hadn't either checking the 184k PF. So it's not about counter defenses to one tactic, but specific matches when to use what isolatedly.
Nice debate here :) There shouldn't be gloomy ideas about the changes. The game is pretty entertaining and changes can always be empowered or just edited, time tells. So I'm in for experiments to make a better experience in the long run.