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107901.24 in reply to 107901.23
Date: 9/6/2009 4:29:30 PM
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I also won the league from the other side JCJayhawk. I don't really see it as being a problem, just an attribute and something you have to take into consideration when planning your team. The promotee before me was from the "stronger" side and the "weak" side will now be getting 4+ (1 demotee from III, 3 promotee from IV and possible bot cleanup spots) new teams for next season so it may solve itself.

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107901.25 in reply to 107901.22
Date: 9/6/2009 6:10:39 PM
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Charles posted about this a couple of posts previous to yours.

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107901.26 in reply to 107901.20
Date: 9/7/2009 8:50:05 PM
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There are a number of mechanisms by which this should correct itself over time, but obviously leagues do end up with imbalance between conferences; this is also the case in real life, I might add.

What we've decided at game designers is that ultimately it's fun to develop rivalries by playing against many of the same teams season after season, and that this trumps equity considerations between conferences in the same league or between leagues in the same division. It's the same reason that we don't try to stick humans randomly in USA V but rather try to fill lower-numbered leagues first so that humans play against humans as much as possible.

Yes, this means that there will be some longstanding imbalances which will correct themselves but only over several seasons or more. Overall, we still think it's worthwhile to know at the start of the season who your main rivals are and to have a long history with them; while the NBBA Big 8 has traditionally been considered stronger than the Great 8 because King Drive Ballers, Chicago Bulls and Salisbury Auerbachs have been longstanding powers, I suspect all three would tell you that they enjoy knowing coming into the season that at most one of them can reach the finals and they'll have to deal with the others in order to have their shot at that trophy.

Well those points may be valid for I.1 divisions. But in Div 2 etc. is that when once unbalanced it doesn't work that way. Some of I.1 leagues are somewhat closing with 3-4 ex I.1 return next year from Divs 2. The usual situation looks like this: weaker conference: 1-2 somewhat strong teams stronger conference: ex I.1 powerhouse, bunch of strong teams losing in conference finals every year. Yes sooner or later some team can break it and advance but you can hardly correcting itself. The only scheme I can imagine is that hefgemon of weaker conference who is playing 2-3 games more than other 14 teams every year making profitwill use this opportunity to his advantage maybe to promote one day. Meanwhile similar teams in opposite conference have nowhere to go. Rivalries are a nice assumptions but the only team which matter (the ex I.1) is changing every year. I guess you will se more of that in next season around the globe. Yet it does't seem country ranking matters in assigning relegating I.1 teams to stronger and weaker Div 2 accordingly to fix that. It could be similar on lower levels depending on how long and how much teams developed in particular country i.e. how tight the hierarchy is on each level.

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107901.27 in reply to 107901.26
Date: 9/8/2009 4:01:14 PM
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i think this is a real problem here.
i say game designers move stogey, juice, brianjames and WFU to the great 8 so i wont have such a tough time.

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107901.29 in reply to 107901.28
Date: 9/9/2009 9:24:55 AM
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You think I'm gonna do you a favor after all the times you knocked me out of the cup?

That's an achievement now? ;)

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107901.31 in reply to 107901.28
Date: 9/10/2009 3:22:12 PM
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i think this is a real problem here.
i say game designers move stogey, juice, brianjames and WFU to the great 8 so i wont have such a tough time.


You think I'm gonna do you a favor after all the times you knocked me out of the cup? :)


Haha, well i couldn't just not try when i was playing for the cup too! =P
It does seem the GE has matched us up in the cup more than once hasn't it..

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107901.32 in reply to 107901.31
Date: 9/14/2009 10:28:33 PM
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Actually it is a problem because the team in the "easy" division can play on a relaxed setting, while those of us fighting it out in the tougher division have to play on at least normal. This gives a huge advantage come playoff time.

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107901.33 in reply to 107901.32
Date: 9/14/2009 10:35:24 PM
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but then again, we all would prefer a little challenge rather than an easy walkthrough to the upper divisions right? I would like to know that I earned my spot in the top and know I could atleast compete somewhat rather than be given freely a spot and then get completely owned. Plus being handed everything gets boring after a while.

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107901.34 in reply to 107901.33
Date: 9/15/2009 6:23:17 PM
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That's not my point. I would love nothing more than to have completely competitive divisions. I know that's not possible, but someone at least needs to make an effort to ensure a little parity. I think you guys are missing the advantage gained by playing in a weak conference while the other conference is ultra competitive.

Last edited by JCJayhawk at 9/15/2009 6:23:31 PM

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