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125551.24 in reply to 125551.21
Date: 12/31/2009 6:44:44 AM
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Sorry Patje you look like berlusconi, if you can't increase the arena, if you have already the specialists, can you tell me how the total amount in the game can decrease? O_O"

If you already have the best team you can afford, then you're not making any money weekly.

Players age, so you will eventually have to spend money on replacements.

Unless people stop training players, so salaries can't catch up with income, curbing profits to close to zero is a natural outcome of the situation.

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125551.25 in reply to 125551.24
Date: 1/1/2010 1:05:58 PM
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Anyway managers from 1st league have to have life even harder I think. If there was another staff member, which boost your performance, you have to get him, while whole league have one...

Imagine someone who can benefit potential of sensational+ players by 10 percent and prominent- players by 1 percent...

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125551.26 in reply to 125551.25
Date: 1/1/2010 1:31:43 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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In Czech Republic there are some very strong teams, in other countries not, so as in the past there are some teams that every season win cup and championship tournament. In second division I earn weekly less than in first division, the income of the arena is half, merchandising is 1/4 and the contract TV is about 50k lower. If you want to be promoted in first division you've to build a team competitive for the first division, with this economy 1m of bonus is nothing, it means that in second division you've to pay more or less the same salary but your profit is half of a team of first division (if you're lucky).
This is in general, speaking about specialists I think that they are absolutely useless, they are here to bring out money from the global system and I can tell you this because I had best lvl of PR and coach, of course if you think they worth you've to buy them but you would like to have them if you're in first league as in Vth division, many teams of lower division in Italy have top specialists

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125551.27 in reply to 125551.26
Date: 1/1/2010 2:23:38 PM
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Yes, but teams in V. league have not sensational players. That was just idea how to suck money from teams which need this kind of players. Is true that in every country is a different situation, but I think that team which can operate at the edge of the power and still earning money, must be bored and I would like to give them an opportunity to have fun again.

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125551.29 in reply to 125551.28
Date: 1/1/2010 6:32:01 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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Yes Josef probably you're right anyway I will not give the advice to anyone to be relegated and promoted. The fact is that today with 2m you can buy a 18yo or a mediocre player, in season 9 you could buy half roster, I've sold Paolino Brasilian NT for 2,5m on that time...

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125551.30 in reply to 125551.29
Date: 1/1/2010 6:59:51 PM
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I think now it can be diffucult for you to rise to Div I, but in some seasons (maybe 10 or 20). Competition will be so strong i the first division that their salaries cannot allow them to make any money, they may even lose money every week. In div II you may gain 100k each week and you can reach a point where you can climb over the edge with the 1m extra.
I think it is because the game isnt in equilibrium yet.
I hope this makes sense:-)

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125551.31 in reply to 125551.30
Date: 1/1/2010 7:18:36 PM
1986 Celtics
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no salaries aren't going to continue to rise for the top players indefinitely... this was the point of the new salary formula.

people are not going to be losing money or earning money hand over fist in the future.

also, when you promote more fans show up to your games, so you will get more fans and can charge higher prices.

the whole point of many of our adjustments lately has been to make that transition between divisions a more manageable jump.

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125551.32 in reply to 125551.30
Date: 1/2/2010 12:17:02 PM
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I think now it can be diffucult for you to rise to Div I, but in some seasons (maybe 10 or 20). Competition will be so strong i the first division that their salaries cannot allow them to make any money, they may even lose money every week. In div II you may gain 100k each week and you can reach a point where you can climb over the edge with the 1m extra.
I think it is because the game isnt in equilibrium yet.
I hope this makes sense:-)

Not necessarily true - check Hostivaƙ's (No.3 of the world rank) payroll. And I'm pretty sure he will avoid any high slary deathtrap - so if it is done carefully a dominating team would still make a big profit.

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125551.33 in reply to 125551.32
Date: 1/2/2010 3:38:19 PM
1986 Celtics
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it doesn't make any sense to run a team at a profit... i mean if you are talking about long term profit. You should be spending every cent you have in the long run. Sure you want your weekly operating income to be net positive, but you are just saving to spend it on something else later. Its not like you are getting some benefit from having money in the bank, you can't cash it out of the game, you can't pass it on to your grandkids.

Conversely it makes no sense to be running your team at a loss.. there is no investors going to bail you out, there is no loan you can take on. This argument that everyone in a top division is going to be forced to lose money to compete is simply fallacious... everyone can't be losing money, its not a good strategy in the long term... a team with a better more financially conservative strategy will beat you. Though it is true we don't want the best players to be unaffordable, cause that is sort of silly.. and that's the reason for the new salary changes.

All that really matters is that
1.Everyone can compete if they plan well on the level they currently are playing at.
2.There are advantageous to being in higher divisions to offset the increased competition people will face.
3.That it is possible for a team once promoted to a higher division to compete once they too are receiving these advantageous. This is one of the reasons behind the arenas changes.

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125551.34 in reply to 125551.33
Date: 1/2/2010 3:45:17 PM
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you can't cash it out of the game


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