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From: JohnnyB

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126331.24 in reply to 126331.22
Date: 1/8/2010 10:54:11 AM
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Funny thing my SG had 112minutes last week and his GS got improved, but as you said random its a big factor here too.

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126331.25 in reply to 126331.24
Date: 1/15/2010 1:42:37 AM
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just wondering if a player dont not get to 48, does his skills have a chance to go up?

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126331.26 in reply to 126331.25
Date: 1/15/2010 1:57:22 AM
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Lets say that 1 of your trainees get 45 min instead 48 then he will get lets say ~75-80%. Its not linear the drop of the % of the training and its giving a big penalty for every missed min

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126331.27 in reply to 126331.25
Date: 1/15/2010 2:13:12 AM
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If a player gets ANY training he is a chance to pop in a skill it depends how high his sub level is. If a player only got 5 minutes but was on .99 of a level then that 5 minutes might give him enough training to push him to a skill pop.

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126331.28 in reply to 126331.27
Date: 1/15/2010 5:01:05 AM
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Maybe someone can help me ? I have spent 2 weeks for training the game shape, but it is not raising for my best players.

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126331.29 in reply to 126331.28
Date: 1/15/2010 5:16:27 AM
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Training Game Shape is only a marginal help and can't correct a completely wrong management of your player's minutes.

In case you haven't read it anywhere before: In order to maintain your players' game shape, they have to play around 50-70 minutes (there are different opinions about the perfect number) per week (Saturday to Friday).
That should lead to game shapes of 8-9 which is pretty good.

I've just checked some of your best players (salary-wise) and their minutes played this week:
Zgura: 33 + 38 + 42 = 113
Marquez: 39 + 48 + 47 = 134
Aaporo: 40 + 48 + 48 = 136

Even training game shape won't help in these cases. (Their GS is at 4...)

Try to give every player a reasonable number of minutes per week and you will see that there's no need to train game shape anymore.

Cheers
Andi

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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126331.30 in reply to 126331.28
Date: 1/15/2010 5:28:22 AM
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Coach Soel wrote a very good guide how to manage game shape and why it is so important.

you can find it here. i hope it will help you.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thread=127791&m=1

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126331.31 in reply to 126331.29
Date: 1/15/2010 6:18:45 AM
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Big Thanks !!! Now i understand how wasteful was my game shape trainings, instead i could train my young players.

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126331.32 in reply to 126331.31
Date: 1/15/2010 7:59:29 AM
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Mates... a question, why if my players has played around 60 - 80 minutes in the last weeks, all of them has coming down on their game shapes???? have no explanation for this, some can let me clear??

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126331.33 in reply to 126331.32
Date: 1/15/2010 8:12:46 AM
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Which players are yuo referring to specifically?

I've just had a look at 4 guys with bad game shape and checked the minutes they've played since Saturday:

Zivica: 35 + 40 + 41 + 48 = 164 (!!!)
Lila: 48 + 47 = 95
Zaniboni: 13 + 34 + 44 = 91
Stjepanovic: 35 (and that was his first match since 2 weeks)

So these 4 guys either had way too many minutes or by far not enough. I'm not surprised that they have a bad game shape.

Only Hakanen played a good amount of minutes:
26 + 48 = 74
But the 88 minutes he playedin the week before, explain that he has only a 7.

If you'd like me to have a look at other guys, just let me know.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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126331.34 in reply to 126331.33
Date: 1/15/2010 1:40:51 PM
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Dude... from where did you get those 164???

Mate, in my buzzercontrol says this: (because I can't see my last week data anymore in the Website).

Down:
- Terho: 48+26 = 74 (-1 GS) ????
- Mijahlo: 35 (-1 GS Pretty understandable)
- Melo: 48+23 = 71 (-1 GS) ????
- Lila: 48+47 = 95 (-1 GS Also understandable)
- Sabogal: Never mind
- Ballesteros: Never mind
- Briceno: Never mind
- Fuentes: Never mind
- Duran: 40+35 = 75 (-1 GS) ????
- Zaniboni: 47+44 = 91 (-1 GS Understandable)

Pop up:
- Blaiotta: 48+13+9 = 70 (+1)
- Milingen: 3+7+65 = 75 (+1)

No changed:
- Rolon: 35+39+4 = 78 (What happened here?)
- Quito: No played
- Zannirato: 9+35 = 44 (Understandable + lucky)
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Thanks for ur help

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