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From: SammyD

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Date: 9/2/2010 2:10:02 AM
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Yeah I realized after that post that I was missing the 200 odd K of the lower tier tickets at the higher price.

It's really hard to compare thou unless you had 2 identical teams with the same season ticket holder amounts, the same PR manager and player the same team on the same night with the exact same ranking and fan surveys.

Who are you comparing Massen to? Teams that are ranked in the top 10 in the world or teams ranked in the 80's like him? Could influence crowd numbers.

I myself am still going for the higher lower tiers build as I can afford it and I can see myself being better off in the long run. At worst I will be even with those who have lots and lots of bleachers.

From: zyler

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155751.25 in reply to 155751.24
Date: 9/2/2010 2:16:17 AM
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i compared him to pretty much every other div 1 team there is with 20k seats or more.

At worst I will be even with those who have lots and lots of bleachers.


i believe this to be partially true , from what i could see you end up with slightly lower overall income from your arena.
but it costs alot more to build.

350% more to build

From: SammyD

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Date: 9/2/2010 2:30:11 AM
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Ok, I'm doing some calculations based on the number 1 ranked team in the world. You probably know a team with better income so link me to him ok?

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/26163/arena.aspx

I'm looking at lower tier and bleacher income only. He got 285k and 206k for his two sections which equals 491k total selling 19204 tickets.

If I have 8.5k bleechers and 12k lower tier at, if I sell the same amount of tickets I would only need to sell them at $29 to make the same amount of money.

Who knows if I would sell more or less tickets, it is hard to tell. Since my lower tier prices are lower you would think I would sell more because of the way that it works, but would 6k fans be willing to pay $10 more for an upgrade from bleechers to lower tier? Guess there is only one way to find out....


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155751.27 in reply to 155751.26
Date: 9/2/2010 3:06:14 AM
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From: CrazyEye

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Date: 9/2/2010 3:41:33 AM
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i believe this to be partially true , from what i could see you end up with slightly lower overall income from your arena.
but it costs alot more to build.


i think that is true ;) But i won't think that i loe money every game, as i said i tried Laim configuration last season and lost a lot of money true it, this time i don't get to the cap with raising my bleachers from 18 to 19(and lost income through it, and i expect that the cap start around 19k visitors), ok my opponent is far away from beeing attractive but succesful team had at least 2k person more who are willing to pay 20$ for a game.(and as is aid i am currently overated, through a nearly perfect schedule and some respect who avoids that my opponent try hard)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/2/2010 3:42:52 AM

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155751.29 in reply to 155751.22
Date: 9/2/2010 3:51:13 AM
Kitakyushu
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550k per game isn't that far off what I get from my 15k stadium!

Attendance: $ 485 275

Are you kidding me? I make 65K more a home game..time that by 11 and that is 700,000 over the course of the season...To me...That's pretty far..

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155751.30 in reply to 155751.29
Date: 9/2/2010 4:02:11 AM
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Are you kidding me? I make 65K more a home game..time that by 11 and that is 700,000 over the course of the season...To me...That's pretty far..


For being all knowing and perfect, you don't really pay attention do you? He said, based on the fact that he has only 15 thousand seats, its not far off. He is not saying that 65K is no big deal, but you have more than 5000 more seats in your arena than he does. Based on that, he indeed is not far off. Come on Yellow Jello, if you are going to preach as though people should worship you, you need to at least respond appropriately to what they say!!

From: SammyD

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155751.31 in reply to 155751.30
Date: 9/2/2010 4:54:37 AM
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^^ Couldn't of said it any better myself :D

And if you look at your salary total of $322 073 thats over $80k more than my $237 881 so really I am doing pretty well :P

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155751.32 in reply to 155751.30
Date: 9/2/2010 5:44:33 AM
Kitakyushu
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you don't really pay attention do you

Mahody......Weren't you the one who sent me a scrimmage request last week? What? Didn't you look and see if I already had your flag? Talk about paying attention...
....Are you upset that I called you on your two pops of experience in 3 weeks lie... It didn't happen. You know it and I know it.
BTW...For him to make up that 65K a home game he would have to load up on more bleachers which he would not be able to sell out. I actually thought his 6000 Lower Tier was a pretty cool Idea except for the low price. I would rather have 5000 at $45 than 7000 at 30$. When he does buy more bleachers, the fans are going to be less likely to buy the lower tier tickets. I do wish I could go back and lower my bleachers to about 15,000. But Oh well. As long as I win, the fans will come.
My perfect arena..
15000 bleachers at $18
5000 Lower tier at $45
500 Courtside at $177
50 Lux. Boxes at $850
That would get you $633K for a sell out...

Last edited by Yellow cake at 9/2/2010 6:21:56 AM

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155751.33 in reply to 155751.32
Date: 9/2/2010 6:33:07 AM
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My perfect arena..
15000 bleachers at $18
5000 Lower tier at $45
500 Courtside at $177
50 Lux. Boxes at $850
That would get you $633K for a sell out...


Sorry im too lazy to check but are you selling your seats at around 99% for each section or so to maximise profits? Or is it not selling out.

To SammyD, I had this talk with Zyler the other night and the funny thing was he was all for the type of arena that promotes greater % of lower tier. All i said was that the two top teams in BB seem to be selling out just fine with a greater number of bleachers. Anyways the only point of my post was to say his done a lot, (prolly to much) research into stadium builds. He knows what he is talking bout. Anyways what you guys say make sense, just it doesnt seem to be working that way. If it does show me an example.

Edit - I struggle!

Last edited by J-Dog at 9/2/2010 6:34:01 AM

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155751.34 in reply to 155751.32
Date: 9/2/2010 6:46:08 AM
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When he does buy more bleachers, the fans are going to be less likely to buy the lower tier tickets.


Not true. A fan will buy the most expensive ticket he can afford. So if I build more bleachers it wouldn't affect how many lower tiers I sell at all unless I change the price.

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