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Alright, to put it another way, people *in this game* will pay for rookies what they will be worth once they're trained since they can see the maximum potential in a player. If in the NBA team owners could see that Kobe was going to be a shoo-in for the Hall of Fame and able to easily lead his team to championships after a few seasons of training would he have been signed for more? I'd argue that any team that possibly could have would have taken the loss during training years and signed the man for 10s of millions a year to lock that kind of talent on their team. Since in BB you *can* see that potential, players go for what they will be worth.

Eddy Curry has potential,but he didn't lived up the expectation,and the same happens for a lot of other players.So while it's normal that a rookie with all the possibilites to became a top player worth a lot of money,it's not normal that they worth as the top existent players,because it can happen that for wrong training,or bad injuries,the player fail to reach the top level
In 1996 Kobe worth as Vlade Divac,that was a very good player at the time,but he didn't worth as Micheal Jordan,because while the Lakers could see Kobe potential,they weren't sure that he would have developed to reach the level of the strongest player in the NBA at time
Then Kobe almost reached Jordan's level,but it takes time and training and also loss to do that

Maybe they think the economy will rise with the fall of wages.
Maybe they want to train their own players in such a way that no players like that are usually available on TL.

Buyers put the market prizes, nobody forces you to buy, nobody denies your capabilities to invest in the draft.

Following the reasoning(?????)of some users here,it seems that TPA doesn't have a reason to exist.
Because if market is free,if buyers can do whatever they want,if we want to close both the eyes about the consequences of certain market transfers,basically there is no reason to have a tool to check the market and correct its distortions
And then,there is no reason to have taxes on the sales of the players,because if buyers can do whatever they want,also the sellers should have the freedom to do what they want,as daytrading,divine trading,and whatever else wants
And at this point,with all this freedom,why the teams should not be allowed to have youth team,to train their players without the risk of losing games and money?And why not a second team to raise money?And so on...

Is this really the game do you want to play?

That's blowing things out of proportion quite a bit.

The TPE acts as a guide to prices on players. However, there are times when it fails. One of these times is at the beginning of every season when new trainees are sold. Since players haven't gone for quite a bit for many weeks, the TPE for all these trainees is going to look low. Then after a few sales, you see them rise to astronomical heights compared to what they state. Once the buying rush for new trainees dies down, you see the TPE settle again to normal levels. It doesn't affect any other area besides the 18-19 year old market really, and then, only for a few weeks.

If, on the other hand the TPE is supposed to be set in stone as "YOU WILL NOT SELL ABOVE THIS LINE" prices for all players would deflate over time, since the maximums would never ever be raised. The only time you would see a new TPE set is once it has finally fallen to "There have been no players like this transferred recently". Given the choice between a few weeks of a small group of player's TPEs fluctuating wildly and a general overall depression in the market, I'll take what we've got now.

I don't wrote TPE,I wrote TPA man,read better the posts of other users before answer...

From the rules:

It is against BuzzerBeater rules to bid above market rates on a player.

If the transfer price was determined to be unreasonable, the GMs are authorized to fine your team by an appropriate amount

TPA,Transfer Price Adjusted,when GMs think a bid is over the market value of a player and subtract money to the seller to balance distortions of the markets

Now the questions is:How can they determinate the "ideal" value of a player to check if a sale deserve a TPA or not?
It's not easy,they use empirical and logical guidelines.
The golden rule,surely is that rookies should not worth as the best players affordable by BB-teams,surely,because it's not realistic,logic neither in the spirit of the game that there's no reward for training a player,when only with the draft you can have a player of the same market value of NT players(salary monsters market price is a problem apart)

I apologize, I misread the acronym. Seeing that the rest of your post still makes perfect sense with that misreading, I think that the mistake isn't worth an attack. Please calm down.

As for your latter statement, I've never had a trainee worth anywhere near what the TPE is, a TPA would be looked at, etc, but I personally don't think that it's wrong at all in a controlled environment such as this where you *know* that a player will be playing for 12+ years and training for 8+ that you may be willing to pay what the player will be worth. After all, if you don't, someone else will. If the BBs start assessing TPAs based on a 3M sale, they've now placed an artificial cap on rookie sales. And that's another slippery slope.

Last edited by Arislanx at 4/26/2011 5:56:06 PM

If the BBs start assessing TPAs based on a 3M sale, they've now placed an artificial cap on rookie sales. And that's another slippery slope.

It all depends on overall market prices.If there is an overall increase of the prices,the bar set for TPA will be higher,if prices go down the set bar will go down
Tobias Kienbink,among the top SFs of the world was selled by Boston Celtics for less than 6M 10 days ago.If someone sell a rookie for 5M,I can easily see that there is somehting strange here,do you agree?

I think that the situation is clear to everyone that has a minimum experience in BB, it's hard to find a solution but the draft is a weak aspect of BB since the beginning.

I disagree with your premie that all players train the same in BB. Oterwise all players of similar height and potential would have the same skill. There are many many thins thainfluence and change how a player gets trained.

As far as your point that my view is narrow-minded, that's fine if you want to believe that is what I was trying to say.