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182775.24 in reply to 182775.23
Date: 4/27/2011 10:43:49 PM
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There was an argument long ago about whether jump shot should have FT shooting as a secondary training skill (then you wouldn't have the guy with the awesome jumper, but can't him a FT), but many people argued that they were totally separate skills (myself not among them).



Really? I'm with you. It's borderline ridiculous to say that they're not related skills. They're both shooting skills. Of all the skills we can choose to train in this game, I would argue that jump shot and FT shooting are the 2 most related skills on the list.

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182775.25 in reply to 182775.24
Date: 4/28/2011 12:24:59 AM
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Yes, free throws matter.

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182775.26 in reply to 182775.24
Date: 4/28/2011 8:29:18 AM
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Yeah, but you're not good at FT's just cause you're good at Jump shots, just like you're not good at jump shots just cause you can hit free throws.

You still need to practice both. In real life, and in Buzzerbeater this is the case.

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182775.27 in reply to 182775.26
Date: 4/28/2011 11:08:54 AM
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Yeah, but you're not good at FT's just cause you're good at Jump shots, just like you're not good at jump shots just cause you can hit free throws.

You still need to practice both. In real life, and in Buzzerbeater this is the case.


Absolutely. The argument wasn't that they're exactly alike, it's that they're related. And I would argue that they're the 2 most related skills of all the trainable skills.

Because of that, my other point is that it makes a lot more sense to get a secondary pop from jump shot training with free throws than it does some of the skills that do.

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182775.28 in reply to 182775.26
Date: 4/28/2011 12:51:18 PM
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Yeah, but you're not good at FT's just cause you're good at Jump shots, just like you're not good at jump shots just cause you can hit free throws.

You still need to practice both. In real life, and in Buzzerbeater this is the case.


to be honest the time you used totally different styles a long gone(free thrwos betwen the legs)

And you are allowed to jump while shooting free throws, when you land inside the "half circle" with both foot, even when nearly nobody makes it.

I wouldn't like the change, because i don't fit so good into the system we have here. It would make FT himself not really desirable, and i think overall FT shooting percentage would become to good because you already don't need much skill. And a big change who balanced that all, for such a minor think is imho not necessary. On a realistic view, i agree with people who like to see that.

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182775.30 in reply to 182775.1
Date: 4/28/2011 10:22:37 PM
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well for me so far this year heres my players

Prodigious: .818
Mediocre: .875
Awful: .500
Inept: .500
Respectable: .827
Inept: 1.000 (6-6)
Prominent: .733

idk why, but for me the rating means...vertually nothing.

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182775.31 in reply to 182775.30
Date: 4/28/2011 10:34:23 PM
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Probably not enough Free throws attempted to give a good indication, wait until they haev attempted 20-30 free throws, then re-do those percentages. Then FT will mean virtually something.

last season i had a guy with mediocre FT hit his first 11 FT's of the season, then ended up with a year percentage of around 65%.


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182775.32 in reply to 182775.27
Date: 4/28/2011 10:40:49 PM
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Absolutely. The argument wasn't that they're exactly alike, it's that they're related. And I would argue that they're the 2 most related skills of all the trainable skills.

Because of that, my other point is that it makes a lot more sense to get a secondary pop from jump shot training with free throws than it does some of the skills that do.


I would actually argue that Jump Range and Jump Shot are the two most related. Whats the difference between a 17 ft shot, and a 24ft shot? Action wise, not much at all.

Free throws, in general, tend to be a non-jumping, fixed position shot, which is a different action to the normal jump shot. I know Crazy-eye said that you CAN jump when shooting free throws, but when was the last time you saw that? Last time i saw that in a game, I was 9, player junior basketball.

But overall im all for the current system. It works, gives Free Throws a certain 'place' of importance in the game.

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182775.34 in reply to 182775.32
Date: 4/29/2011 3:44:35 AM
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I know Crazy-eye said that you CAN jump when shooting free throws, but when was the last time you saw that? Last time i saw that in a game, I was 9, player junior basketball.


i just say that, for people who might say that a standing free thow have another shooting technic. If you are able to make a uncontested jumper(50%) from that point, and not the free throw shot - then shot it like the jumper and then you should have 40% shooting percentage at least through nervosity and fans if not more because you aren't out of breathe and not in a hurry(and if that should the reason that you won't hit a shot from there, you need more then 2 weeks to get to 30%)

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