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I get what you are saying, it just seems opportunistic and rediculously unfair to consider the Lakers loss to the Mavs as proof that the Lakers are soft or unable to win when it counts. Anyone not born this year knows that is simply untrue. No team wins it all every year.

Yes, I am a Laker fan. Are you a bandwagon basher?

first of all making such things different for the league would be really bad, they are also smart teams who don't have the abilities to play higher.

And overall, when you want to adjust focus through the game and opponent start with a neutral defence ...

But when i know the opponent takes two quarters the inside attack bonus, and the other two the otuside attack bonus. I scouted the opponent good, but when i adjust my defence for it, i would be wrong in 50% of the cases and normally it is worse to be wrong then to be right, so that even the 3:1 tactic where you mostly play with your strength will be only defended by mtm instead the right defence ... So overall you take out the tactical oppurtunities out it.
The next point is that the engine adjust the tactics even today, so your defence ratings would be different with a man to man defence especially end game when you play against an inside or an outside team. Also an outside team would search more inside attack late game, when the opponent plays with a strong outside defence. If you switch tactic every quarter, such adjustment would screw this system because if your man to man defence is adjusted to an inside attack, it have more problems with an inside attack next quarter.

hehehe, yea I wasn't implying they area weak team. Just weak this series. Everyone has a bad day, week etc. Phil is ready to step away and he has been a big part of what made them great. perhaps he just ran out of juice.

Yeah, the part I think is interesting is that people are shocked it was Dallas. I mean, if OKC or Miami or Chicago or Boston had beat the Lakers, people wouldnt have been so critical of the Lakers. For some reason no one thought the Mavs had a chance, so when they swept it left the Lakers open to jokes and criticism they wouldnt have recieved vs a more respected opponent. The Lakers choked, and the Mavs played excellent. I am proud of my boys in LA. For a team with a star SG and PF, and a bunch of spare parts in bench spots 3-12 I think they have done pretty darn good.

I get it though, I love to trash the Yankees and their payroll when they get eliminated too.

I think tagging Bynum and Odom (who plaued on the National team this summer) as just spare parts is a little unfair. Sure some of the players are a little limited in what they do but players like Fisher and Artest clearly have their strengths as well as weaknesses. The front line of Bynum, Gasol and Odom is still one of the best in the league, well it was considered that 10 days ago. Bryant has been nursing his body all season and couldn't play with the team which hurt. Everyone knew Jackson was going so the word is some players stopped listening. There was a lot of talk about internal conflicts.

I think it is still a great team that just had a bad series, however is it as good as Miami, Chicago, OKC etc, that is another question that we wont know for 12 more months? I expect to see a ton of changes.

I am no fan of the Lakers, I screamed out loud last season when Perkin's injury game them the championship. But they are far from finished.

I mean, if OKC or Miami or Chicago or Boston had beat the Lakers, people wouldnt have been so critical of the Lakers. For some reason no one thought the Mavs had a chance, so when they swept it left the Lakers open to jokes and criticism they wouldnt have recieved vs a more respected opponent.

Is okc really that much more respected then the Mavs?

I think it was:
1. they lost with a sweep
2. they didn't lost like champions("We were getting embarrassed, they were breaking us down. So I just fouled somebody, I was just kind of salty about being embarrassed. ... For me, it was embarrassing to have the smallest guy on the court keep running down the lane and making shots."bynum)

I think it was:
1. they lost with a sweep
2. they didn't lost like champions("We were getting embarrassed, they were breaking us down. So I just fouled somebody, I was just kind of salty about being embarrassed. ... For me, it was embarrassing to have the smallest guy on the court keep running down the lane and making shots."bynum)

I'm a Mavs fan and I must say that I thought Bynum was the only C in the league who could overcome Dwight, but then they lost that way and they didn't even resemble the image of a champion..

The Lakers were the team I respected the most until this series, but seeing Odom, whom I thought to be the classiest player in that team, acting like that just got them off any kind of real champions class. I'd expect that from Artest, but not Bynum and Odom.

They didn't lose their respect for being swept, it wasn't for losing to the Mavs either, they lost it because of the way they reacted to not being the best team on the floor.

Perhaps it is unfair, but I believe it and have said so on numerous occasions. Artest is very inconsistant and none too bright. Fisher is old and slow and I consider a bench player at best. Bynum is all potential and injury, with very sporadic production keeping him relevant. At some point potential without production is what it is.....a bust. Some of you arent there yet with Bynum, but it is only a matter of time. At least Portland can give up on Oden ever reaching his potential, but LA gets just enough isolated nuggets from Bynum to keep believing. Odom is awesome, I love Odom and perhaps here I was unfair. However those who have followed Odom over the years with the Clippers and Lakers know that he underperforms when he is relied upon, and plays awesome when he is treated as a role player. He really didnt start breaking out in big games until he became the 6th man after they acquired Gasol. Spare part? maybe not. Superstar? Certainly not. Anyone on the Lakers I didnt mention here who qualifies as more than a spare part?

And seriously man, claiming the Perkins injury cost the Celtics the series is like me claiming Pierce's fake injury three years ago cost the Lakers the series. Sillyness and excuses.

Last edited by Heathcoat at 5/15/2011 4:09:30 PM

Is okc really that much more respected then the Mavs?


Here in America? Yes. As we see with team like OKC and Orlando-Stats and stars are focused on, team play is forgotten or dismissed because it isnt as exciting. Guys like Durant and Howard garner so much attention that it makes people forget it is a 5 on 5 game. Exactly why the Griz are doing much better than expected, lack of star power tainting expectations.

I believe some people confuse respect with expectations...
I think I'll never see someone saying that Nowitzi's scoring, Kidd's playmaking and Chandler's defense aren't respected, It's just that Mavs' image in the playoffs is really really hurt and few people can see past that.

As for OKC, Durant has earned his spot as a great scorer, just as Nowitzki, but how far has he gone beyond that? Westbrook is a great wingman for Durant, but he's taking too many shots. What about Perkins? I haven't seen him playing anything like he used to since being traded.

OKC can and will earn some respect, but I just can't see them as a more respectful team than the Mavs right now.

Last edited by Welington at 5/15/2011 4:52:45 PM