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185100.24 in reply to 185100.23
Date: 5/17/2011 9:20:30 PM
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What you are describing is already built into the GE. The players try find the best shot available on each offensive set. Each tactic already builds in what type of shot the players will try to achieve.

I don't see how giving an order to my center to try shoot most of his shoots in the paint is turning the game upside down in a wrong way.


Its already built in. if the player has a good shot he believes he can make then he will take it. That means if your C can get off a wide open, unmarked shot then he will take it if it is the best play available. Which is better than trying to get the shot out to a guard for a contested jumper.

I don't see almost ANY center in the world shooting 3 points(except for end games and desparte positions)on a regular base


Mehmet Okur? Troy Murphy? Andrea Bargnani? Dirk Nowitzki (he could play C if they need him there)? I'm sure there are others. Plenty of European big men have quite a bit of jump shot and range which could hit the open jumper. If they get a shot they believe they can make (even if its from the 3pt line) then they will take it. Not every C is built like your traditional American C that is there to dominate the paint and not much else

Last edited by Monkeybiz at 5/17/2011 9:22:16 PM

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185100.25 in reply to 185100.24
Date: 5/18/2011 6:34:20 AM
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You belive the GE works in a certin way,but beliving that doesn't say it is really working like that,i think the GE still takes a lot of stupid shoots,for exmple a center taking a 3 point shoot 4 sec after a timeout,come on! how many time did you see that in real life? and it wasn't even in the last quater! if that's not a bad GE decision then what is?

I didn't see okur and murphy play so much but still i didn't see them shoot 3 points on a regular base,bargani and nowitzki are PF,and belive it or not i watch european basketball on a regular base and even was at the final four 2 weeks ago in barcelona,we got PF that shoot for 3 points in europe and some of them are really good at it(taltovich,morris if you know them)buy still since sabonis and vujcic there is no center that has a normal hand for this shoots and also a premission from his coach to shoot whenever he feel he can.

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185100.26 in reply to 185100.25
Date: 5/18/2011 7:05:21 AM
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So you expect him to pass up an open shot because it´s only been four seconds after the Timeout?

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185100.27 in reply to 185100.25
Date: 5/18/2011 7:47:30 AM
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for exmple a center taking a 3 point shoot 4 sec after a timeout,come on! how many time did you see that in real life? and it wasn't even in the last quater! if that's not a bad GE decision then what is?


So your C shouldn't shoot a 3 even if it is wide open and he has a decent JS and JR? Thats like saying Bargnani shouldn't shoot a open 3 when given a chance.

I didn't see okur and murphy play so much but still i didn't see them shoot 3 points on a regular base,bargani and nowitzki are PF


Okur and Murphy was injured a lot this season so it doesn't count. Last season, Okur averaged taking 3 3 pointers per game and connecting on 1.2 of them. Murphy last season averaged 4.5 3pt shot attempts and connected on 1.8 of them.

Bargnani played 58% of Toronto's C minutes last season according to 82games.com. Dirk Nowitzki is a PF but he could play C if needed. He played at C several seasons ago when Dallas didn't have any decent Cs.

Your logic is also flawed. So just because a player plays at C means he should pass up a wide open shot even if he is a good shooter? Just so the guards can put up contested shots?

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185100.28 in reply to 185100.19
Date: 5/18/2011 8:05:46 AM
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Unfortunately, you can't create Rondo in BB either, a guard with Inept JS will just be ineffective.
Have a look at Golden State Warriors statistics under Don Nelson and how many %wise 3s they took.

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185100.29 in reply to 185100.28
Date: 5/18/2011 8:41:00 AM
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Unfortunately, you can't create Rondo in BB either, a guard with Inept JS will just be ineffective.
Have a look at Golden State Warriors statistics under Don Nelson and how many %wise 3s they took.


i know a team, which run the 2can not shot Shooting guard and Pointguard" for a long time, quite succesfull and very salary efficient.
currently he should be on a rondo type level, which is far better shooter then inept ;)

and my big could all shot nowadays, but they also take a lot more then my no shooting center midrange and long range shots - without missing to much presence below the basket, so i think it work like intended.

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185100.30 in reply to 185100.29
Date: 5/18/2011 11:07:10 AM
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i know a team, which run the 2can not shot Shooting guard and Pointguard" for a long time, quite succesfull and very salary efficient.

and my big could all shot nowadays, but they also take a lot more then my no shooting center midrange and long range shots - without missing to much presence below the basket, so i think it work like intended.

Nicht verstehe. Sorry, could you put a bit more effort into English, so your effort is understood. It is however always appreciated.

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185100.31 in reply to 185100.30
Date: 5/18/2011 11:15:53 AM
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i mean shooting guard who can not shoot works aren't that bad in the right teams, because a team i know makes this for a long time like that. it is quite salary efficient and also the guards are relative cheap to buy.
Actually he increased the shooting level of his guard, but they are still not great shooter(probadly more like Rondo).

And in my current roster all big players could shot, but i noticed also an increase in shot when i switched my big men(before just one PF could shot). So i think that this works like intended.

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185100.32 in reply to 185100.31
Date: 5/18/2011 11:31:53 AM
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Ok, thanks! It's just that when I started this game I posted a thread "Rajon Rondo", and everyone was convincing me that it's impossible. Good to know!

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185100.34 in reply to 185100.32
Date: 5/18/2011 12:00:07 PM
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Ok, thanks! It's just that when I started this game I posted a thread "Rajon Rondo", and everyone was convincing me that it's impossible. Good to know!



the thing is that he won't score like Rajon, maybe you could check out the team yourself. Especially during his second league time, he have "non shooting" guards.
He has lot of succes there, even when he have the tendency to loose the finals with a low paybill.

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