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206027.25 in reply to 206027.17
Date: 1/10/2012 2:05:56 AM
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There are two issues, and you "agree" to the first (as you never argued against it). This is a starter.

If I have a need to say that I agree to something, I will say it myself.

2) "Salaries should be affected by the league they are playing at."
I don't see here anything that defines size. Do you?
I will update this sub-suggestion and create a separate one that focuses on this area.

So, is it only the league level that would affect the salaries as per your suggestion? Or something else? Please explain the mechanism. What is the target that you wish to achieve with the suggestion? This is what I asked you in my first post.

There is no need to create a separate suggestion to discuss the actual content of this suggestion. If you have no real suggestion to begin with, you should not open a new thread but instead use the thread for minor suggestions.

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206027.26 in reply to 206027.22
Date: 1/10/2012 2:20:33 AM
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Summarizing;
Kirilenko gets much less in CSKA comparing ot his contract in Utah Jazz, why is that?
Worse division / BB-nation, worse salary.


This is indeed a false statement.

Kirilenko signed with CSKA when there was a lockout in NBA. His earnings in NBA would have been $0. Thats right, he wasn't even going to be paid by Utah and he was out of contract. So at that point, playing overseas at CSKA seemed like hell of a better option that making $0. In fact, many NBA players went this route such as JR Smith, Wilson Chandler, etc.


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206027.28 in reply to 206027.23
Date: 1/10/2012 4:23:29 AM
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Etoo earns more in Russia than in Italy. Your point is moot. Point. Set. Match.
Russia and Italy are different countries (check the globe...), and not different divisions.
NBA, comparing to Europe can definitely be called different divisions, as the salaries in the NBA are much higher than in Europe.
In both Italy and Russia there are richer teams and poorer ones.

Do you really believe that this kind of lame "arguments" will hold any water when one will decide upon this suggestion?

Time to stop the Cry-Baby mode.

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206027.29 in reply to 206027.24
Date: 1/10/2012 4:26:28 AM
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Krstic returned to Europe and is getting much less.

Vujacic - the same.

Players who went from Europe to the NBA earn (much) more.

Summarizing - There are here few who thinks that those who take the decisions here are not familiar with the real-BB-managing game, and hence could camouflage a suggestion with words.

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206027.30 in reply to 206027.25
Date: 1/10/2012 4:33:12 AM
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1) This thread is about "higher divisions => higher salaries".
Meaning - this thread deals with inner nation salaries.
A thread that will deal with salaries between nations will be opened in the future to come, and it is a major suggestion.
I will not gonna discuss it here.

2) I don't know anyone who will believe that the salary a player gets in a higher division is the same as he would get in a lower one.
It is like saying, here you are a veteran at your field, we will give you to do amateur work and you'll be paid the same.
Doesn't work like that.

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/10/2012 4:34:10 AM

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206027.31 in reply to 206027.30
Date: 1/10/2012 4:35:04 AM
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Lol. NBA and EUROPE (as a whole) are different divisions, while INNER-Europe Countries are different countries? I´m proud of you.

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206027.32 in reply to 206027.26
Date: 1/10/2012 4:39:51 AM
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Summarizing;
Kirilenko gets much less in CSKA comparing ot his contract in Utah Jazz, why is that?
Worse division / BB-nation, worse salary.


This is indeed a false statement.

Kirilenko signed with CSKA when there was a lockout in NBA. His earnings in NBA would have been $0. Thats right, he wasn't even going to be paid by Utah and he was out of contract. So at that point, playing overseas at CSKA seemed like hell of a better option that making $0. In fact, many NBA players went this route such as JR Smith, Wilson Chandler, etc.
I'm not sure if you are wrong on purpose or not, but this is just not "true" (using very gentle language).

Kirilenko had a contract, like many BB players until the strike ends.
He decided when the strike ended to stay in CSKA.

And as already written, he is far from being the only example.

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206027.33 in reply to 206027.32
Date: 1/10/2012 4:46:46 AM
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First of all, talking about beeing wrong: there was no strike. A lockout is pretty much the oppositve of a strike. 2nd - if I´m not completely wrong - Kirilenko was NOT under contract when signing with CSKA, as he was a Free Agent. No lockout in the world can EXTEND existing (and expiring) contracts. Kirilenko became a FA as of July. No more contractual connections with the NBA afterwards.

In addition, you forgot to target the point about the incentives AND we´re not talking about a player in his prime or on top of his skills. Kirilenko is far from beeing a star in the NBA, he has become a mere roleplayer (overpaid, that he was).

Show me a Kobe getting his BB salary of 250+ k who -could- make 300k in the NBA but decides to go for 125k somewhere else (far away, outside his own country / club). This is just not the case.

And if he´s far from beeing the only example, where are the others?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 1/10/2012 4:48:04 AM

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206027.34 in reply to 206027.27
Date: 1/10/2012 4:51:28 AM
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You have a strange way to look at thing that is for sure.

Me and all of the (real) BB-players around the world.

Kirilenko? Is he insane? Why does he get so less in CSKA compared to what he got in the Utah Jazz?

Kirilenko here and Kirilenlo there. Is that actually your only example. If so it is proven VOID.
Already brought enough other examples.
Again, do you realy believe that someone will buy that a player that will go to a lower league (because it is much easier when you are much better) will be paid the same?
Do you really believe that when a veteran on any field will take a freshman job he will be paid like a veteran?
Ridiculous

Kirilenko signed with CSKA when there was a lockout in NBA. His earnings in NBA would have been $0. Thats right, he wasn't even going to be paid by Utah and he was out of contract. So at that point, playing overseas at CSKA seemed like hell of a better option that making $0. In fact, many NBA players went this route such as JR Smith, Wilson Chandler, etc.


And need i remind you (yet again) that this is not the real world nor the NBA but a GAME.
I guess there are some that are needed to reminded that this is not an eBay-game, but an BB-managing game.
Do you think that saying that "this is just a game" means - "They should make it a simple game for me (AKA you)".
A game purpose is to represent the world it was designed for as good as it can.
Let's make a Car-Game without the stick. And without the wheel. "Do I need to remind you that this is just a game?"

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/10/2012 4:54:31 AM

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