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From: WFUnDina

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Date: 1/8/2013 6:10:26 PM
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There are many contributing factors. 1st, you need to have an Arena big enough to do it. Secondly, your prices have to be right. Of course, have a great fan survey will always help, along with having a good opponent.

But 1st their are some guides, I like to follow, these are not fact or written in stone or something. Each of the 5 division have an acceptable price range, from looking around and what I've seen, id range them like this.

           D.I     D.II     D.III     D.IV        D.V
Bleachers 15-20 12-17 9-13 7-12 5-10
Lower Tier 55-70 37-60 30-40 25-35 18-30
Courtside 150-200 120-150 80-120 65-110 50-90
Luxury Box 1200-1600 900-1400 700-1200 500-1000 400-800


Of course these prices, have to be in correlation to amount of seats. You can't just be a winning D.III team with 5000 seats and expect to sell out at 20$ a pop, because other D.III teams are making 100$K on their 10,000 seat arena.

This D.IV team made 170022$ And it wasn't even the Finals! http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29052/arena.aspx

This D.III team promoted and has a winning record, but he can't sell Bleachers because they are too expensive. http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/29042/arena.aspx

This D.III team is making over 225K$ a game!http://www.buzzerbeater.com/team/23228/arena.aspx Even making that much money, I'm sure if he adjusted his prices, he could possibly make even more.

You have to look at how many seats you have, the smaller the number the more you can charge, but their are breaking points. At a certain point, fans won't pay X$s for a certain division, etc.


Edit - those columns are as good as they are going to get!

Last edited by WFUnDina at 1/8/2013 6:53:26 PM

From: sheert

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Date: 1/9/2013 7:57:35 AM
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@ Manouche and WFUnDina
first i want to say i am sorry that i was agressive to you just because i was dissappointed.

now on i take your answers as an advice and enlarge my arena, lower my prices. hope to get enough $$ in return, if i can't, watch you backs i will be all over there :D.

just kidding, thx...

From: WFUnDina

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I never thought you were aggressive. I just wanted to help share some of the info that I've gathered. My head is jumbled up mess of info. :P

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Date: 1/9/2013 12:16:25 PM
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Žaidėjų algos: $ 165 687 Lankomumas: $ 187 970
Personalo algos: $ 46 646 Prekių pelnas: $ 35 112
Talentų paieška: $ 20 000 TV kontraktas: $ 68 126
Viso: $ 232 333 Viso: $ 291 208
SavaitÄ—s grynasis pelnas: $ 58 875
Paskutinės namų rungtynės: 13957 fanų (99% pilnas)

even more:D i can bet i would be making around 200k if id be without loses. last seasons seen a team in lithuania div 4 making like 211k constantly. The fact is you need quite a big arena, be succesfull at tournament and manage prices correctly.

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Date: 1/9/2013 12:55:49 PM
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congrats man, i hope i can make money as much as you some day :P

From: Manouche

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It's ok :)

You've tricked WFUnDina into making a masterful post, well played ! ;)

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Date: 1/9/2013 6:20:47 PM
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You've tricked WFUnDina into making a masterful post, well played ! ;)


Sorry to be a hater but I don't see any value in that post whatsoever. Prices don't change much level to level because average arena size usually increases enough to make up for it. I actually had my highest arena prices in D4 because my arena was so small. Those numbers are wildly inaccurate and misleading.

From: w_alloy

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Date: 1/9/2013 7:37:08 PM
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OK maybe that was a bit harsh, there is some price increase over the divisions. In the interest of contributing something myself, here is my gate receipt range for this season and last:
160k-200k (d3)
285k-315k(d2)
I made substantial arena improvements and set ticket prices better this season. Both seasons I had a worse stadium than roughly 2/3rds of my competitors but had promotion bonus to compensate. Too bad I can't access my D4 or D5 data.

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Date: 1/9/2013 7:40:39 PM
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Well you are a bit harsh... I'd have price ranges linked to the arena size too. I think it is still a good chart for newcomers to give them some perspective. You are clueless about the arena when signing up as you don't have any reference point. Emphasis was put on the arena size factor. There are so many starting situations, new teams join in D.I or D.V depending on the country, all of them with a 5k arena.

It can be probably be improved and your critics are contributing, thank you for your input.

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Date: 1/10/2013 3:39:01 PM
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any help for my arena? right now i only pull in about ~110k per game. I want to do better in my divison but have a problem increasing my revenue.

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