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28993.24 in reply to 28993.23
Date: 5/9/2008 11:11:08 AM
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Overall, the US team was undermanned (talent-wise) IMO, against teams like Brazil, Spain and of course Italy


And the first two we beat and the 3rd we play on Monday.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
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Any four will score
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28993.25 in reply to 28993.23
Date: 5/9/2008 11:14:35 AM
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Overall, the US team was undermanned (talent-wise) IMO, against teams like Brazil, Spain and of course Italy, who also had the benefit of home court. Since the US had to maintain higher enthusiasm to overcome these teams should they meet, do you believe it better to CT to get a win, even if that means you're risking any chance of the ultimate goal, winning the tournament?

This was the case against Nigeria were it wasn't even assumed they would CT and even if they did, we'd still have a chance (only 8 point loss). If you knew that a normal would give you a "toss-up" chance of advancing, would you take that to keep the ultimate goal intact?


I don't believe the US team had the players to win the whole thing. So, that being said, I feel like the goal should have been to advance as far as possible. CTing against Nigeria in a must-win situation would have ensured that. Should the US team have beaten Nigeria Normal vs. CT? Yes, probably. However, there was a chance of losing, which is what happened. As Juice has said, he would have done it differently given another chance, and I respect that.

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28993.26 in reply to 28993.25
Date: 5/9/2008 11:22:32 AM
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Obviously the Americas initial qualification is a bit of a cakewalk, but any thoughts on the group:

Pool B
Team W L PF PA %
1 United States 0 0 0 0 0.000
2 Bolivia 0 0 0 0 0.000
3 Ecuador 0 0 0 0 0.000
4 Paraguay 0 0 0 0 0.000
5 Brasil 0 0 0 0 0.000
6 Puerto Rico 0 0 0 0 0.000

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28993.27 in reply to 28993.26
Date: 5/9/2008 11:23:35 AM
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If we don't advance past this group whoever is in charge should be shot.

We also play Brasil last, and for the 1st time not in Brasil.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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28993.28 in reply to 28993.27
Date: 5/9/2008 11:25:49 AM
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9 candidates registered, 2 actually debating - where are the other 7?

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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28993.30 in reply to 28993.29
Date: 5/9/2008 1:14:49 PM
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you'd stand no chance of beating italy in a "win or go home" game, you know that… yet you're going to win, since italy will field third- and fourth-tier players who didn't make it to the world cup 18 (which actually were 20). don't mix usa vs italy with the other games, the other wins are worth much more.


Remember that our enthusiasm is going to be roughly .0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001%

And if we played Italy in a real game, we'd be right in it.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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28993.33 in reply to 28993.32
Date: 5/9/2008 1:30:19 PM
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And there's more to come.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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28993.34 in reply to 28993.33
Date: 5/9/2008 1:43:11 PM
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It's not like the USA is some small league that just started this season, I think we have plenty of capable managers here that can coach the squad....albeit they don't seem to feel like joining in the discussion as to why they should be the manager. So perhaps its good to have an outsider to challenge Juicy even though I figure he won't have the backing to win.

I personally like the way the current coach is managing the team, albeit with a reservation that I'd rather discuss directly w/ him.

My question is basically...I view the National Coach as an ambassador to the community as well as a National Coach. What suggestions would you give to getting new users into the Buzzerbeater USA community? Heck, a SOCCER game has more USA users than a basketball game, that's unacceptable! LOL

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