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I dunno what is worse, the BBs wasting time and resources on irrelevant stuff or people cheering for those with all the things that need a fix.

I wonder what they do when the engine light goes on in their car: go get the engine checked or change the rear view mirror...

Your comment is as out-of-touch with reality as the developers are with this game. User engagement is the check engine light. People are leaving the game in droves and the improvements to the game have been widely panned. Our complaints about and exits from the game are the gauges that indicate this game has a serious problem.

I’ve been a Supporter for multiple years on a past account and have considered buying Supporter recently. What holds me back is that I’m not sure I want to play this game for the next year with all of its issues. I doubt I’m alone in that. Tchotchke perks to being a supporter do nothing for me and I assume many others as well.

Your comment is as out-of-touch with reality as the developers are with this game. User engagement is the check engine light. People are leaving the game in droves and the improvements to the game have been widely panned. Our complaints about and exits from the game are the gauges that indicate this game has a serious problem.

I’ve been a Supporter for multiple years on a past account and have considered buying Supporter recently. What holds me back is that I’m not sure I want to play this game for the next year with all of its issues. I doubt I’m alone in that. Tchotchke perks to being a supporter do nothing for me and I assume many others as well.

Firstly:
I wouldn't define this as a Major update either. This is an aesthetics thing that market research shows has a need for retention of first-time users.

Secondly:
Let's focus on the part of your statement I bolded. If all you ever do as a business (that's what buzzerbeater is to the developers, a business.) If all you ever do is try and keep the customers you already have in place. That is not growth. If that's all you do, your company will die. period.
For a company to grow and develop, which is what will keep the user count up, or even make it go higher, you have to obtain new customers... and when you obtain new customers, you have to retain them as a repeat customer. This jersey change is a thing that is aimed more for retaining brand new users, to get them to keep coming back. Rather than to cater to the whims and fancies of the majority of us dinosaurs that have been sticking around here for years just to B and Moan about everything that doesn't go the way we feel it should.

Last edited by RandyMoss at 5/13/2018 10:58:24 AM

That is what I meant by that, perhaps I wasn’t clear enough, perhaps the comment was out of touch... or perhaps your understanding’s light went on and you did not notice.

Good grief. You don’t really think “market research” has shown jersey design to be a user retention issue, do you? I wish BB had a facepalm emoji.

This game struggles to retain users, because the learning curve is steep, the game doesn’t comport with reality when it comes to basketball, the site is obnoxiously outdated, and growing a quality team is really slow-paced. These are all issues the current user base has mentioned as nauseum. These are all issues that are fixable. Retaining long-term users and attracting new ones is not a mutually exclusive endeavor. What keeps us will also attract new users.

Ha! My apologies for misrepresenting your statement. I’m a little slow at times.

As I don't work for BB. I don't know what they consider to be their "user retention issues" from market research.

However, you can find many real life examples of professional sports teams trying to improve ticket sales and merchandising by doing jersey changes.

Or, guess real life strategies don't work for a fictional sport to accomplish the same real life task?

As to

what keeps us will attract new users

: blanket statement that is over-generalizing, and not entirely true.
Many new users, don't have issues right off the bat, with things that become problems for users that stay on and play continuously.

Did every single person figure out within 2 league games, that the outside shooting is busted and LI is heavily favored?
Does everyone figure out within the first 7 days how ridiculously hard it is to find an AFFORDABLE trainer?
Do new users even know what an "affordable" trainer is?
etc
etc
etc

While I agree whole-heartedly that the developers need to not Shun the current user base and longtime users in an effort to only pander to trying to retain new users. Retaining new users is also something that they can't ignore.
The developers need to find a way to do BOTH at the same time. And not just flip flop between which group they try and cater to. Surely they're not suggesting that B is without any problem at all that longtime users and new users both get frustrated with?

Lipstick on a pig

I don't have supporter. Where do I see the jerseys that people with supporter have designed? I still see the tiny figures at their team overview pages.

Thanks
Are you able to see jerseys from other people?
If yes then my question to BBs, is it a feature that non-supporters can't view supporters' jersey design, or is it a bug?

Last edited by lopas at 5/13/2018 1:16:29 PM