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41429.24 in reply to 41429.23
Date: 8/6/2008 5:14:07 AM
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Had you added one more seat to your full arena, would that ticket have been bought? If the answer is yes, then your arena is not optimal.


nicely said :D

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41429.25 in reply to 41429.24
Date: 8/6/2008 5:57:41 AM
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hmmm. . .

i meant no offense, but if the only way to go with this is to expand your arena for whatever reasons you are having trouble.

then quit yapping and expand that arena. maybe at first it seems hard for you to recover or something but youll get the money eventually.

i think if you get promoted there is money reward, well i would use that :D

truth is i can already feel the hardship already, my payroll is almost close to 200k and my revenue from home games is close to 300k. imagine that with only 35k only on tv revenue. and i got holes to patch on my lineup!

2 things to worry

1) how to expand arena
2) continue improving my lineup

the only reason other players are really ahead is because they planned well for 5 seasons or so on . . . we cant beat that now, either we make it up now or pay for it later. :D

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41429.26 in reply to 41429.23
Date: 8/6/2008 8:54:43 AM
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Had you added one more seat to your full arena, would that ticket have been bought? If the answer is yes, then your arena is not optimal.

Theoretically, this is true. Practically, one seat is immaterial.


Right. I wasn't talking about you but about teams in general, which is why I used 'one' and not 'you'. I thought that was the reason why you also used that term

Plenty of teams are in my position. Since no-one seems to react adequately to general discussion, I thought that providing a particular example would help. Oh well.

And yes, one can have as big arena as one wishes, and lower prices as much as necessary. But having in mind that we were given two viable options, it is mind boggling that BB will go out and penalize the (small arena, high prices) managers while really trying to target the income of (large arena, lower prices) managers without any indication or warning.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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41429.27 in reply to 41429.26
Date: 8/6/2008 3:12:55 PM
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I'm in the same position as you. Looking to promote, going to get badly hurt by the tax increases if I do. I have enough cash available to expand my arena by around 3,000 seats, which if sold out will earn the same amount of money after top-division tax as my 7560 seater does now.

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41429.28 in reply to 41429.26
Date: 8/6/2008 3:19:01 PM
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well, on the flip side, those of us who bought seats rather than players feel our investment has been discounted by 25-40% whereas those who bought players rather than seats have seen their investment increase by, ooh, 400%?
Sell one of your players, buy seats, quit complaining...

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41429.29 in reply to 41429.28
Date: 8/6/2008 3:58:27 PM
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well, on the flip side, those of us who bought seats rather than players feel our investment has been discounted by 25-40% whereas those who bought players rather than seats have seen their investment increase by, ooh, 400%?
Sell one of your players, buy seats, quit complaining...

Why don't you voluntarily demolish some seats instead to help the global inflation problem?

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 8/6/2008 3:59:34 PM

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41429.30 in reply to 41429.29
Date: 8/6/2008 4:38:06 PM
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Hey, starting in Season 3, I've only just got to the point where I can spend the excess on players rather than more seats!!! (well, I thought I had, then the Players Union started demanding Club Yachts for every player).

Talk to Inebriated, he's the EBBL champ with the 20k arena...

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41429.31 in reply to 41429.19
Date: 8/6/2008 5:28:44 PM
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I would expect you to earn considerably more in DI than in DII, because the fans are much more interested in buying tickets.

This only holds if his area is big enough. Mine, for example, has been designed to be full at max prices in DII (which, one may argue, has been optimal up to now). So I am lucky I have some spare cash to extend it a bit, otherwise the only benefit I get from promotion is a 40% tax instead of a 25% tax...


this is a managerial game so one must choose how many risks it's worth taking
keeping a small arena with maxed prices and using the money another manager spends on seats to buy better players means giving up some flexibility. if you start losing some matches the attendance will go down much faster

(of course there was no way to foresee a change of this magnitude and i think it should have been announced some week in advance to give managers at least the time to adapt)

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41429.32 in reply to 41429.31
Date: 8/6/2008 6:29:30 PM
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I would expect you to earn considerably more in DI than in DII, because the fans are much more interested in buying tickets.

This only holds if his area is big enough. Mine, for example, has been designed to be full at max prices in DII (which, one may argue, has been optimal up to now). So I am lucky I have some spare cash to extend it a bit, otherwise the only benefit I get from promotion is a 40% tax instead of a 25% tax...


this is a managerial game so one must choose how many risks it's worth taking
keeping a small arena with maxed prices and using the money another manager spends on seats to buy better players means giving up some flexibility. if you start losing some matches the attendance will go down much faster

(of course there was no way to foresee a change of this magnitude and i think it should have been announced some week in advance to give managers at least the time to adapt)

Right. So 'unforeseen and lopsided changed by the game administrators' should have been in my book of risks. Hindsight is 20/20, I imagine.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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41429.33 in reply to 41429.26
Date: 8/6/2008 7:42:32 PM
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Theoretically, this is true. Practically, one seat is immaterial.


Oh yeah, then check out my stadium. 5771/5772. The one empty seat is a luxury box. 817 dollars isn't immaterial to me.

I think the guys here new this was going to be a b*tch, but it had to be done. There's enough complaining when I'm at work, or when I'm in line somewhere. I'm on this site to alleviate the amount of whiny ****s I come in contact with.

If you're a good manager, you'll adapt and overcome.

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