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91077.24 in reply to 91077.22
Date: 5/30/2009 3:48:06 AM
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Well i had a 6ft 5 guy take 5 or 6 weeks to go up a level but he was allstar only and is i imagine v.close to his soft cap.

I dont document things exactly but i think the move on Bastias from Strong to Proficient was 6weeks in PG/SG.

I hope to have some new data in a season or so from now!

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91077.25 in reply to 91077.23
Date: 5/30/2009 3:53:59 AM
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I rarely mono-train as i feel the risk is too high.... having said that it is only recently i have made purchases of players with greater than Allstar potential.

This season I hope to use some weeks to try single position as i phase out the training of my soon to be 24yo's and if the minutes fail I will take the opportunity to train stamina or free throws.

I guess the next question is what experience do people have of training 23-25yo's?

I imagine there are some great players that potentially could still be improved to even greater more rounded long term stars for their respective teams. Will managers devote the time to 'polishing' them or simply look to sell on buy a better base trainee and start the process again?

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91077.26 in reply to 91077.25
Date: 5/30/2009 5:47:20 AM
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Well as i said b4 you can do everything you like, but without specific needs, i will go to a high potential young guy and give him the best possible training. You dont need to train an older player even that my experience is that you can train a 24-25 y/o player

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91077.27 in reply to 91077.25
Date: 5/30/2009 6:30:10 AM
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I trained my 23 year old (now 24 year old) best player last season and the training speeds weren't that much slower compared to the rates for 18 year olds, until he hit the dreaded potential cap and stopped reacting to training.

So if a player has a very high potential, the training shouldn't be that much slower for a 23 year old player.

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91077.28 in reply to 91077.27
Date: 5/30/2009 10:48:48 AM
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I have a player like that on my team. He'll be 24 this year and Im hoping to still get training out of him as he is my best player. His potential is MVP though so he shouldn't cap so easily.

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91077.29 in reply to 91077.13
Date: 6/2/2009 10:37:44 PM
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A player with a bunch of respectable skills is not a "player". It's a guy you pick off the street. A player is someone who has spent years improving his basketball skills.

I don't understand what this has to do with my post. Did I ever contradict that? Perhaps you misunderstood my question. Anyhow...

I'll give you a small task: go to the transfer list and search for all players that have 12 or better in Inside Shot, Inside Defense, and Rebounding. Then come back and report how many 5'6 guys you found among them.

If this doesn't convince you, search for players above 7'0 and then for players shorter than 6'0, and check what the average rebounding rate is.

Again, I don't understand why are you pointing at this. Now I'm positive that you didn't understood me. I was not talking about training, but about in game advantage solely. If you don't find anything strange in the fact that 7'0" guy doesn't have any rebounding advantage over 5'6" guy... and, again, I'm not talking about training, but in game rebounding... fine, no problem, I'm not gonna argue over it. Still, I think it's absurd to believe that someone like Nate Robinson could out rebound someone like Dwight Howard. Whatever.

And as far as tasks are concerned, I have one for you, too: go and Google how many 5'6" centers made it to the NBA, or even better, forget the NBA, go and Google how many 5'6" centers played this game professionally at all... and then ask yourself why is that? Perhaps that will help you to understand my point.

The question is not what were they thinking (this is a very well-thought feature of the game), but whether you've thought about the situation at all.

You know what? I think you are being very unfair, not to say rude. I never meant to offend anyone, but whatever. I'm glad to see that you put some thought into it, though :/

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91077.31 in reply to 91077.30
Date: 6/2/2009 11:55:12 PM
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Oh, please stop being so political, you know none of those things has to do anything with what I said in my opening post.

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91077.32 in reply to 91077.31
Date: 6/3/2009 3:54:12 AM
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Hey Jase,

Don't think anyone is trying to be rude it is just this point comes up alot and probably irritates people having to answer it all the time.

I will see if I can help and not inflame this situation anymore.

Generally players that come with a team when it first starts or are drafted are considered the equivilent skill of someone who plays tuesday night ball at the local stadium.

I know in my local competition we have Centers ranging from 6'10" to 6'0". Rebound wise being tall doesn't help at this level. Its when you start training in real life that you get better. Also being a very short forward myself I would like to remind people that rebounding isn't just jumping up to catch a ball. A fact a few NBA forwards might need reminding of. Boxing out and judging a shot comes into it.

The big guys train inside skills quicker so if you look in USA div 1 you wont see any sub 6 foor centers.

I hope this helps. If not please feel free to ignore my comments and I will slink back to my corner

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