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From: Kukoc

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152075.240 in reply to 152075.237
Date: 7/28/2010 6:02:24 PM
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BB's wanted to avoid pouring more money into the system. When they did that we had crazy prices and going up. They needed to fix it and did, with bringing free agents back in, to take that excess money out of the system.
What would be the point of bringing that excess money into the system again? If you raise the income of all teams, then you still make less money than a team from Cayman Island. If that team "steals" a player from the transfer list, which actually was never your player to begin with, then you should stick to players you can buy, not worry about thouse you could not buy. I agree it's hard to buy players with near 0 balance, but if we raise your div income by 100k, then in a little while every team in your division has upgraded their players to be competitive and your salary total has raised by 100k. So in conclusion we would be in the same spot again. You writing in the forums how more money should be inserted in the system.
If we would give just the big countrys a significant raise on every level, then we ensure that no small country team can ever prevail in international competition. At the moment we can have any team from any country capable of getting to B3 level, it takes longer for teams in big countrys to get to that position, but EVERYONE can still get there. If you get to that level, it does not matter how much more money Cayman Island team makes in a week than you, why? because if he makes more, then his team is weaker, if he has the same level team then you actually are also on the same level in TL capabilitys, the additional merc income should somewhat balance his constant win record.
I have always said that you should train for your team, not for selling, that's how you can protect yourself from nasty surprises. There is a difference between can't sell and don't want to sell. You fall into that second category.
I find it surprising that a team that concentrates on Cup results (finals and semifinals last seasons), says he can't compete in his own league. Perhaps with concentrating on your league success you could have been back in the div1 by now?

Last edited by Kukoc at 7/28/2010 6:08:00 PM

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152075.241 in reply to 152075.240
Date: 7/28/2010 6:38:50 PM
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I think that would not be great problems for BBB,because the difference among the first divisions all over the world is quickly closing up,and so the difference in a possible new system,as everyone can see from the TV contract all over the world,so it's not a real argument;among the top users the only that could be really penalized is Superfly(I would be sorry,I have nothing against him,it would be his country to being too weak)


The mistake that BBs make last time that they pump up money in the system,was exactly to not calculate that giving money to everyone independently from their economic situation,would only boost the prices without really change the equilibrium on the market to penalize less than in the previous situation the users of big countries,especially in lower divisions,that was the original goal of BBs(I think)

The incomes have not to be raised for everyone at the same level,it should work on the max arena attendance,if italian league is more competitive than the X league,if the X league has a max attendenc of 10000 people in the III division,the italian III division should have a 12000 max attendence(these are not precise numbers,its only an example),so the best team in the III division would have the incomes for 12000 peolpe,the worst the incomes of 10000 people and so on...


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152075.243 in reply to 152075.242
Date: 7/28/2010 7:10:26 PM
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In the actual system,there's yet a practically hard cap,because there's a max in incomes that you can reach if all the variables are at the max(fans survey,adequate prices at the palace and so on)
That max should be raised in the different way in the various leagues,looking at the competitivity of the league...the only thing to be chosen is the way to calculate the competitivity of the leagues,which is a difficutl thing to do
Country rank surely isn't a good way to calculate the competitivity of a league,the random cup draw or the different choices about cup in the various league would influence too much the incomes of the various leaguje
Overall team skills could be put in the mix,but not as the only factor,because you can do very different value on some skills,especially on secondary skills,which often make the difference between similar players and teams;the same speech is for salaries and evaluations....but I think there should be the BBs to find the formula,we as users have to give the ideas,they have the duty to develop them ;D

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152075.244 in reply to 152075.243
Date: 7/29/2010 12:06:59 AM
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(150570.2) Actually the strongest leagues TV contract has improved more than the lower leagues. For example German teams make more 70k+ more money from tv contract per week than Japanese teams + because of better quality in the league, their merc income could (lol insert NT self drafted player here) be higher aswell + as a big country there are more german players on the TL etc,etc...

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152075.245 in reply to 152075.244
Date: 7/29/2010 6:04:40 AM
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Germany is an exception also among the big countries,if you see well,Bulgaria Cyprus and Iceland grow more than Italian Serie A,Holland and Estonia grow at the same pace
But the point is that while the big country are near to the max,the other users have room to grow,If our TV contract rise up,is because the overall Tv contract all over the world rise up,not because Italian I division grow

P.S. I think it's stupid that ther's only a TV contract for all the season,many teams make movements after the draft,so there should be an update of the TV contract at least at the ASG break

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152075.246 in reply to 152075.245
Date: 7/29/2010 7:32:49 AM
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But the point is that while the big country are near to the max,the other users have room to grow,If our TV contract rise up,is because the overall Tv contract all over the world rise up,not because Italian I division grow


you should know what are you talking about, before making your opinion a fact. TV contract is linked to the quality of the league and not whole world. you can read this here: (93604.14)

Last edited by Rycka at 7/29/2010 7:33:25 AM

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152075.247 in reply to 152075.238
Date: 7/29/2010 7:46:58 AM
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No, Team Chemistry will get in the game just like potential did. It will count from now on.

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152075.248 in reply to 152075.245
Date: 7/29/2010 7:54:10 AM
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If an Iceland divI league is catching up to Italy, then that means theyr quality is improving. If a country with 50 users has the same contract in divI as a country with 5000 users, then theyr I divisions are equal in strenght.
If you can not boost your income any more in the divI then you are at the salary cap. If every team is at their cap (and that would be all drafted players evenly trained being NT members and evenly spread out league leaders) then you can take it as BB's salary cap. You can not raise one countrys income just because there are 5000 users in that country.
Looking at Germany, Italy is not even near it's cap now. So why does Italy need a raise in income?

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152075.249 in reply to 152075.246
Date: 7/29/2010 9:18:39 AM
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But the point is that while the big country are near to the max,the other users have room to grow,If our TV contract rise up,is because the overall Tv contract all over the world rise up,not because Italian I division grow


you should know what are you talking about, before making your opinion a fact. TV contract is linked to the quality of the league and not whole world. you can read this here: (93604.14)

If for a X quality level the system gives more money than the previous season,if you maintain the same level,you'll have more money,it's logic,man

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152075.250 in reply to 152075.248
Date: 7/29/2010 9:30:49 AM
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You are funny,man,really
Show me the post where I said that BB should give money to the country because of their BB population
I ALWAYS said that the system should give money for the competitivity.If the first Iceland division catch up the first Italian division,the incomes would be exactly the same,so what are you saying?
And I never said that Italian first division need a boost,you are saying the false,man
The problem is in the lower divisions,where it's not acceptable the current situation,as I said in numerous posts,but not again for population,but for the different competitivity and the different weekly balance

Please,stop saying the false and stop joking

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