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Is BB dying a slow death? (the title question to the thread)
Answer: yes

So is their a thread to show how this will be fixed then if not here?

I believe Mr. Glass was inferring to the point of literally hundreds of posts and literally thousands of GMs have quit while this thread exists. I personally thought that the dip petered out around 28k and hung around for along time. Now 23k looms closer.

With GMs like Mr. Glass i see passion which shows deep caring for this game and i share many of his views and yes I'm just as frustrated.

I have been here since season 3 and still striving to break into the "hegemony"of the upper leauges (I'm a winner but not a champion).

We need solutions applied ,not affirmation of "if" at this point.
Close the thread. ... it is as pointless as an American Congressional hearing.

May you never be forum blockaded.

You can cuss people out and they still respond to you. May out always be that way for you.

And again to everyone else. ....I was not speaking rhetorically. ..I want. .. like others want to know can this be fixed?

If so. .. when?

The powers that be know their is a problem. ... how about some transparentcy on this matter that supersedes all others.

You're playing since season 3, and still haven't finished your arena?

And what about training? You had enough time to train a beastly franchise player, and build your team around him..

And what about training? You had enough time to train a beastly franchise player, and build your team around him..

On the one hand, that could be a valid point. On the other, despite being out of III.5 for four seasons now, I still have trepidation if I see the last name Khan on an opponent because BarryS' franchise player was such a challenging player for the six seasons I got to face him.

So in very polite terms if we don't like what is going on with the direction of the game to leave?

Easy to say. ... harder to do.
You see being emotionally invested into this game since 2008 that is simply not going to happen.
With Moderator answers like that. .....
This game will die.
It is truly unfortunate that the forum guardians have no answers to this very serious issue. .. it shows that people care, and for you to respond that is you don't like the game to leave? ?

I love this game that is why I'm still here and will probably be here when this game gives is last heartbeat.
Your response was well thought of yet vague by design. Your response was not comforting at all.

Answers that bring hope. .. not very polite brush offs are needed.

@Someone mention about my arena. .... it's fine. .. it has handled a perennial contender since season 12. And contending yet again right now.

I'm also not sure why discussing the history and current being of a team has a big importance in that thread. We kinda succeeded in stopping to do that about Glass' team, no need to start with another user team.

BBs see like everyone else that the user numbers are slowly decreasing, they don't put their head in the ground. It doesn't mean it's easy to solve things whatever people could think. Many IRL problems also are currently searching for an answer, but even with money and people ressources, it's difficult.

There has been a lot of discussions here and we can see that even amongst users there is no agreement on many topics and solution. BBs agree that an app would be a really good thing and are searching for a way to have one which doesn't mean it will happen soon and still we also had some users saying it wasn't necessary to make one.

BB is now 7 years old. When someone is starting, we tell him that it's not a sprint, but a marathon. I think that any old timer here knows that this is also how BB evolves, slowly but in the right direction. If it's too slow for some here, the solution is quite simple. I and the BBs (and most of you) don't want to see more people leave, but if the way Buzzerbeater is working behind the scenes is not the way you wished, it is unlikely to change.

+1

They don't care ,in my opinion on certain things to fix. Just sitting on the hands of them with certain things, instead of come out and say look it can not be done. I think some things like LI dominance is a political money factor item. BB can't touch it.

If I remember correct they added a few things to ease LI up.? Sb, Gdp, feature. . Its no cure for cancer, or tissue for the nose either. Play one new tatic a week & they will play low post. I don't think the numbers coming back up soon.. I don't think those people just got a personal life so heavy and so they walked away. I work every day and travel too . 1 hour or 30 minutes or less, I can do my whole week line up. Sometime 2 weeks line up. To be fair im not everybody so I can t speak for them. Im just making a valid point.

The problem is they take to long to fix what really need to be fixed. If im a broken record on that to some here ,then look, I'm not the only one. ALot rather keep their mouth shut, and some just leave. Because what good will it do to speak up.


The issue in one way is , they shunned the ones who wants what best for BB, and listen to the ones who want what best their ball club or advantage( $$). I never put my ball club over any rule or anyone for that matter.. I love outside tactic to death but you know what. I'd be 1st one here to say if they over powering , tone it down. I'd be 1st on here to say ,this beat that and this what you need to play it. For all to use and understand open for debate.

You don't see the Chinese managers coming to the Boards telling, all how build a 2oyrs that better than a long time nt players? cost millions+ to buy at 20. If it about training where are those threads beyond do 1 player training... everybody always coming out with this or that step to do with training.

But None of they're players are looking like the Chinese at 20. Stuff like that would help the game. Stuff what of you need to play unpopular tactics Is important. It shouldnt be a insult debate among one another of who got the biggest u know what.. A lot things need to be fixed for the better , but thing is flat out up and down .This is a LI/lp game because it cheap to build it.

Why waste millions building a Os team. All you need is outrageously strong defense with LI /LP and your set. You cant the same for Paitinent or motion ,r&G. I had a pait team and strong defense for 1 whole season 1400/ 1500 given up but I lost in the playoffs that year to LI used by the foe. MY Roster wage was I think 224k$ a week, This in 4 league here. Image what I needed to have in 3 div. 2 div. nbba.?? Just becuase I used OS team I couldn't not win with 224K a week . Balanced team as well. No flaws that season

We can sit and pick the turkey of facts. of this factor or and blah blah. factor. But the truth is it took me 6 season to put that team together around 2-3 million+. the majority of the skill was defense, I made sure there wsnt one damn flaw come playoff time.. Just because he played LI he won.. Defense avg for my team was 13/14 that year. Them the breaks for me. I assume others as well.. I wanted to quit that night, At same time. I always feel they will turn it around to a fair game.? But im not going hold my water on that.


Last edited by Mr. Glass at 10/2/2014 11:55:45 PM

I was at the point where i needed to rebuild my team seasons ago and had to decide how to build the team. The only thing i know was that i didnt want to build a LI team. And without knowing if it could work i started building for outside offense.
There was a lot of managers that said it couldnt be done cause the game is broken and......
Well as my team started to take form i started to win and that without extreme salary.
So outside offense can work well if you get the right team for it.
The problem doesnt lie in if this or that offense works or not. It's about what players are available. And as the public tone is that LI is the only thing that works and teams that want to play outside uses the same type of players as inside teams does there is nothing strange with the fact that inside works better as the players are built for it.
Training of players must change and we need to see more different players on the game. If that happens we will see a game where managers will be able to play more type of offenses.
However i feel like there has been a larger use of different offenses after the implementation of GDP.
Lets hope it continues to develop in that direction and that more managers see that we can do something different with our team.

+1

I agree that there has, imo, been more tactics variation since the introduction of the GDP...which has to be a good thing. I think the high priced players are simply reflective of an adjusting economy post-intro of Utopia. These are changes but not negative ones. As managers trying to play this game we simply need to adjust.

I believe BB is trying to make this a better game and implementing changes slowly and somewhat tentatively is exactly what one would expect given this great game needs to be tweaked cautiously so as not to negatively impact on the game we currently love.

To my American colleagues I say that while you are entitled to voice your opinion and even vent a little you also need to always keep in mind that this game functions very well already. Yes, there are things that could be improved...yes, there are things that may improve the game if implemented...however, I'm sure you'd agree that implementing any change that lessens managers' experience could have long term affects like loss of managers. BB needs to act slowly, cautiously and with surety.

Is BB dying a slow death...the title of this thread I created...No, I don't believe so. It's simply an adjustment period. And, as has been suggested before...perhaps the weeding out of players who aren't serious about BB accounts for the drop in player numbers.

So, are you a weed or a flower in this great garden?

Last edited by Mr J at 10/3/2014 3:32:19 AM