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The group phase will involve 8 randomly assigned games.

I don't get it. So you could play the same team 8 times? You will not know your schedule in advance? I am slow, I think I need someone to draw me a picture.

Anyhow, I still don't see the difference between the B3 and the Cup. If the format is good for one tournament, why not the other? Again, a picture would help. ;-)

Have you ever seen serious injury in B3? I haven't, no injury I have seen was serious, all injuried players were always fit after the game. Even if I know it's said by BB's there can be serious injury in B3.

Injuries will statistically occur more however infrequent they are.

The real problem is the gamethrowing and match fixing. But hey what do I know.. i only predicted the most obvious day-trading trend that would be required many moons ago and pretty much every single bull and bear market in player transfer values so far.... I guess I might be wrong this time!

Injuries will statistically occur more however infrequent they are.

I don't care about statistic theory, I would like to see one example where it happened in B3.

Some good points raised about potential gamesmanship.

But where did they say they were introducing injuries (that lasted more than the duration of a match) to B3?



Last edited by Tortuga at 12/22/2010 5:50:20 PM

It seems this change will make WOs more frequent (in b3), but its not the root cause of why there are WOs. So how would we globally stop WOs?

BB's can stop it by automatic random lineup if there are less than 3 players set for lineup by manager. Only WOs then would be if there are less than 3 not injuried players on roster at all.
With this rule every manager would be worry about not setting lineup.

It seems this change will make WOs more frequent (in b3), but its not the root cause of why there are WOs. So how would we globally stop WOs?

BB's can stop it by automatic random lineup if there are less than 3 players set for lineup by manager. Only WOs then would be if there are less than 3 not injuried players on roster at all.
With this rule every manager would be worry about not setting lineup.

There is just too many rule changes to appease the one tiny problem of day trading monsters that can be solved in a much simpler manner.




Last edited by Superfly Guy at 12/23/2010 6:49:49 AM

For example, the B3 are arcade-mode games (like the private league), and is designed to encourage teams to try their best to win (it doesn't compete for playing time / game shape with other games, for example).

That is a valid point. But I still think there is some encouragement to win cup games and especially some key cup milestones (ie: to get a cup game during allstar week and to win the final, for example).

But with that said, surely the single biggest difference is that there typically around 150 teams in the B3, while the Cup formats must be able to work in countries with over 5000. That alone makes this sort of format unworkable.

Maybe I am missing something as I have not thought about it enough. But is this not just a scaling issue? If there are more teams you just play with the number of round robin games. And/or you play with the number of teams that advance from the round robin. I think there might be an issue with a very small number of teams but in that case you could just stick to the current format.

If, as someone said before, the key reason to make this change was to stop people from buying monster players for zero dollars, the same issue exists in the cup. Perhaps it happens less and is not as visible to the community at whole. But I have seen it happen.

But again, I may not have the full grasp of the reasons behind this format change.