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OK man you're stepping over the line!! I'm not trying to fool anybody !!!!!!!!!! I'm just simply stating what I think is true.

I didn't say anywhere in my previous posts that the macros have an advantage !! You argued that small nations have an unfair advantage, I stated that this is not true and I gave statistics from b3 history.

This is the history of B3 champions :

Italy : 1 champion - Currently has around 1850 users
Spain : 2 champions - Currently has around 1750 users
Polska : 1 champion - Currently has around 1250 users
China : 5 champions - Currently has around 700 users
Turkey : 1 champion - Currently has around 600 users
Germany : 1 champion - Currently has around 575 users
Serbia : 4 champions - Currently has around 500 users
Argentina : 1 champion - Currently has around 450 users
Latvija : 2 champions - Currently has around 300 users
Slovenia : 1 champion - Currently has around 225 users
Czech Republic : 1 champion - Currently has around 200 users
Canada : 4 champions - Currently has around 200 users
Iran : 3 champions Currently has around 50 users
Japan : 1 champion - Currently has around 25 users
Moldova : 1 champion - Currently has around 8 users

If you count all of them, it adds up to 29 B3 contests as I stated before. Now what is the limit for macros ? I mean how many users ? Buzzerbeater has 99 flags (including Utopia I think), Canada with around 200 users is the 30th in terms of user number. So if you do a simple math, you see that 24 times out of 29, the B3 champion has been from the upper third of the BB in terms of user count.

24/29 = 82.7 %

This means that approximately 8 times out of ten, the champion has been from the upper third of BB in terms of user number (The upper 1/3 in terms of population and user count)

Let's say that nations with around 500 users or more are macros, that way we have to count the champions from Serbia and the countries above in terms of user number, we see that 15 times the champion has been from a country with around 500 users or more. Let's do a quick math :

15/29 = 51.7 %

This means that on average, 1 time each 2 seasons, the champion has been from a country which is in the top 12 (if we don't count Utopia) in terms of user count.

Let's just take into account the top 10 countries in terms of user count, then we would have :

11/29 = 37.9 %

If we round it up to 40, this means that approximately 4 times out of 10, the B3 champion has been from a country which is in the top 10 in terms of user count.

Like I said above, almost 82 percent of the B3 champions are from the upper third of the BB in terms of the user count, Which leaves Iran, Japan, and Moldova as the only countries which are in the bottom two third of the BB in terms of user count :

5/29 = 17.2 %

Iran and Japan are in the middle third of the BB in terms of user count, and that leaves Moldova as the only country in the bottom third of BB to have ever won a B3 :

1/29 = 3.4 %

Now considering the above calculations, let's say that 100 B3 competitions have been held, by the math above we would have :

Almost 83 times out of 100, the champion would be from a country which is in the top third of BB in terms of user count. This mean that the country would have about 200 users or more

Almost 52 times out of 100, the champion would be from a country which is in the top 12 in terms of user count. This means that the country would have about 500 users or more

Almost 38 times out of 100, the champion would be from a country which is in the top 10 in terms of user count. This would mean that the country would have about 600 users or more

Approximately 17 times out of 100, the champion would be from a country which is in the bottom two third of BB in terms of user count.

Only 3 times out of 100, the champion would be from a country which is in the bottom third of BB in terms of user count. By current statistics, this would mean that the country would

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Considering the numbers above, I think you can see my point. While managers can build high quality teams in every country, the statistics support my point of view saying that micro nations are NOT at an advantage compared to nations with more users.

You say that Iran odds of having a former B3 champions are very low, that is true. The statistics that I provided you clearly rejects the nation of imbalance. I think Iran having 3 championships in B3 just shows how amazing the managers are in here. And believe me when I say that there is still more B3 champions to come from Iran, so you can cry out imbalance and free B3 tickets all you want to, but you can't accept the fact that some managers are just too good. You claim that you want competition and you said that you had trained the best SF in the world, while you had the best SF in BB on your team, playing in Japan which according to you is at an advantage compared to other bigger nations, how come you got nowhere in B3 competitions ? Didn't you have a free B3 ticket playing bots ( according to your saying) ???

You make 3 million this season playing bots, good for you!! But don't go around accusing others of fooling other people when you have no idea what is going on in their leagues and teams.

One of Irans B3 titles was bought though.

He took advantage of the market and sold players at the best time possible, then used that money to build a strong team and went on to win the B3. I think this just shows how smart he is and how skilled he is as a manager. Not everybody can pull of something like that.

By the way, what happened to the message above? What was the content that led to its deletion ?

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You really are ignorant !!! The math is right in front of you. But you keep crying out imbalance because Iran has 3 titles. Makes you sad that you got no where. right ?

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Let's do another quick math. According to the history of B3 champions that I provided you in my previous posts, 82 percent of the time, the champion is from a country in the top third of the BB in terms of user count:

Italy : 1800
Spain : 1750
USA : 1300
Polska : 1275
France : 1150
Greece: 1100
Lietuva : 950
China : 700
Turkey : 600
Germany : 575
Eesti : 500
Serbia : 500
Argentina : 450
Hungry : 450
Portugal : 400
Philippines : 375
Russia : 300
Israel : 300
Latvija : 275
Brazil : 275
Australia : 250
Finland : 225
Slovenia : 225
Taiwan : 200
Czech Republic : 200
Croatia : 200
Uruguay : 200
England : 200
Canada : 200
Hong Kong : 200
Belgium : 175
Bosnia : 150
Romania : 150

These are the top 33 countries in BB in terms of user count and their numbers. These are the rounded up or rounded down numbers. If we add up all of them we would have :

17600 users. So this is the number of users in the countries in top third of BB in terms of user count.

17600/20000 = 88 %

So according to the odds, there should be a 88 percent chance that the B3 champion come from a country in the top third of BB in terms of user count. The history of the previous 29 B3 competition show that 24 times the champion has been from a country in the top third of BB in terms of user count :

24/29 = 82.7 %

Which means approximately 83 percent of the champions have been from a country in the top third of BB in terms of user count. There is only a 5 percent gap between what the odds say and what has actually happened. That's not much of a difference. And real life never goes exactly according to plans or according to what the odds say. But the numbers are close so you can see my point when I say that micro nations don't have an unfair advantage. This means that according to the numbers, the champions have been distributed correctly over the history of BB, and that they follow what numbers and odds expect.

I don't see how you can still ignore the numbers !! You use Iran's championship numbers to argue your point, but you don't think for a second that like I said, some managers are too good. Look at the bigger picture man, and look at the numbers in whole. The numbers that I provided clearly supports my point of view. Just because Italy has the most number of users, doesn't mean it should produce a B3 champion once in a while !! B3 is where champions from all over the world meet, and the struggle for domination is real. You see an amazing coach like Darkonza in B3, and you see that he has been a part of B3 playoffs for quite some time now despite the fact that he plays in Polska, which is 4th in terms of user number. I myself actually lost a great match to him in OT in B3 playoffs last season.

So instead of blaming micros and crying out imbalance, maybe learn the game a little bit

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I never said that !

It's up to managers to prioritize their goals. Here in Iran too, we have managers who favor the league title, some care more about the national tournament, some plan their teams for B3 competitions.

It's really up to the manager to decide what he/she wants to do