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You propose to buy draft pick which I can't know the quality. Being in the first is not a proof of quality.

I heard that Stern is about to quit, and they are looking for great minds that will suggest things like removing the current trading in the NBA which includes draft picks... Picks that were proven not to be fully correlated with quality (just as it is in BB Draft-list).

So why would I buy this product when I can chose from the FL exactly what I want ?

You don't want to, then don't use this option.
It is an OPTION a seller may choose to use (allowing X draft picks being part of the trade), and a buyer may exploit (giving a draft-pick as part of the offer/bid).

And don´t forget that it makes auctions ALOT more complicated, as the accepting team has to tell / judge on the offer, instead of just "highest bid wins". I don´t wan´t not pick from any French 2nd league, unless the team is finishing 15th or 16th, and I´d like a Scottish 1st league top five, and a Cyprus ...

Horrible administration work. And all the scouting that has to be done to make a pick worth anything ...

Perpete:

YADA YADA YADA
An useless pick, for me a pick without information is useless, could not be worth more than 10.000$. Not useful bargain on the TL...

So for you (if we will believe you) it is worth not more than 10K.
Now read carefully the word marked above...

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/9/2012 4:17:19 PM

And don´t forget that it makes auctions ALOT more complicated, as the accepting team has to tell / judge on the offer, instead of just "highest bid wins". I don´t wan´t not pick from any French 2nd league, unless the team is finishing 15th or 16th, and I´d like a Scottish 1st league top five, and a Cyprus ...

Horrible administration work. And all the scouting that has to be done to make a pick worth anything ...

You don't need to use it and it is not that it is so amazing that the higher division's teams, that are not really training draft players, will not use it.

The draft potential is the same for all countries. There is no different between different league picks.
The value of draft picks is calculated in the bid value.
Whoever take this option is taking the chance and risk with it.

Teams from the lower divisions (and some from the higher once) will.

So if I don´t use it, trading won´t get more complicated for me?

That´s plainly wrong, if I sell a player, I have to cope with it. How do you want to judge an offer at the transfer deadline?

1) I´m selling.
2) I´m not online at the trade deadline.
3) Multiple users offereing their picks, one offering money straight up.

-> How to judge?

How will the system judge MY own system of valuing the picks?

In addition:

Any new team crooked by one of those draft pick trades is more likely to leave the game and quit, feeling tricked and betrayed by the experienced users. "Oh, great, I get a new draft pick - NBA teams are doing this, so it has to be good !" - and then on draftday, they have a hand fulll of 19 year old benchwarmers and no team at all. Bye bye Buzzerbeater.

Before you rode that realism horse, you talked about "user friendly". Now how is an unnecessary change for the more complicated and less realistic system any of (1) more realistic (2) user friendly or (3) for the sake and the attraction of the game?

If 10K$ is nothing, than a draft pick can be worth nothing (10K$ in your case).
So I don't see a problem.

You agreed that it can be worth that much.

Although, I'm not agreeing that a first round pick should be worth that low, but that is beside the point, as we are not discussing how much, but should it be valid.
You agreed it to be valid when defining it worth 10K$.
Point
Set.
Match.

So if I don´t use it, trading won´t get more complicated for me?

Like a manager who decides not to offer or to include draft-picks in a bargain he put in the NBA, the same is true here.
You don't want to get a draft-pick, you will not get any, but the market is also open for those who wants.
You don't want to sell a draft-pick? Then don't. Other can, and you need to cope.

1) I´m selling.
2) I´m not online at the trade deadline.
3) Multiple users offering their picks, one offering money straight up.

-> How to judge?

How will the system judge MY own system of valuing the picks?

That had already been answered.

Any new team crooked by one of those draft pick trades is more likely to leave the game and quit, feeling tricked and betrayed by the experienced users. "Oh, great, I get a new draft pick - NBA teams are doing this, so it has to be good !" - and then on draftday, they have a hand fulll of 19 year old benchwarmers and no team at all. Bye bye Buzzerbeater.

Again you (not specifically, but as part as the known group) are trying to scare the BBs with ridiculous argument of "they will leave the game".
A user agreeing to get draft-picks, know its implications. How much money it is worth, what he can get, etc.
Like any decision he take, he will do that as well.

This game is being played for experiencing the BB-managing world.
Main features of BB-managing like that are the core of a BB-managing game.
Users will lose interest in this game, if they could not identify it from an eBay-game.