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210195.25 in reply to 210195.24
Date: 3/6/2012 5:16:00 AM
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I just checked out my next pponent, and was surprised by his last match. Looks for me like a "how did i loose that" candidate for the black label society:

(45457686)

Or "analyzing Motion".

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210195.26 in reply to 210195.25
Date: 3/6/2012 5:29:24 AM
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look at the matchup rating, the offense wasn't that ineffective, since the defense is solid from the winning team.

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210195.27 in reply to 210195.26
Date: 3/6/2012 5:39:32 AM
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The Motion team committed too many fouls...I guess his inside defense isn't good enough. It happens when opposing C has high JS (not that I know if Matsu Soloman's C has high JS...).

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210195.28 in reply to 210195.26
Date: 3/6/2012 7:27:54 AM
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Yeah, I see. There is some bad luck + less shots taken.

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210195.29 in reply to 210195.27
Date: 3/6/2012 8:31:47 AM
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Good defenders make more fouls then bad ones, i believe even the Bb said it 2-3 month ago.

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210195.30 in reply to 210195.29
Date: 3/6/2012 12:11:58 PM
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Good defenders make more fouls then bad ones, i believe even the Bb said it 2-3 month ago.


Can u try to find the quote to this please?

About the game, I don't really get it. I don't like the "bad luck" explanations because, well, they doesn't point out to anything we as managers can do or understand.

This game really puzzles me because even considering, the difference in posesions and FTs this should have been a victory for Black Label considering tactics and matchups.

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210195.31 in reply to 210195.30
Date: 3/6/2012 1:47:36 PM
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i looked at it, bt i don''t know in which threadt it was posted.

But when you look at good vs worse team stats(really clear games, give uo matches or loopsided NT/BBB games ), normally the fouls ain't that much different and foulprone player tend to get worse since they didn't reach there training minutes so often.

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210195.32 in reply to 210195.30
Date: 3/6/2012 2:10:38 PM
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I don't like the "bad luck" explanations because, well, they doesn't point out to anything we as managers can do or understand.


I think it was BB-Marin who said some things depend on luck, we can't change that with our choices and it resembles real life, where I agree. I guess we are too accustomed that various computer games let us master them and nothing depends on luck there.
But in real life, you just don't know why Lamar Odom is underperforming with Mavericks or what goes through Gordon's head now in Hornets...or how the hell is Kobe shooting 32 pts/game since he is wearing mask. Or how did the Heat blow a giant lead in last five minutes of a finals game against Dallas.


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210195.33 in reply to 210195.32
Date: 3/6/2012 2:54:54 PM
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i think Lamar Odom bad stretch could be explained, since the strike and his personal problems really hurt him. With just bad luck, it won't be so many games.

But bad luck often comes into play during a basketball game, Nash/nowe are 90% free throw shooter which doesn't mean that they hit every time 9 free throw when they get 10, they will often hit 10 and sometimes just 6 or 7 ... And this count for every shot the player takes(even when the real shoting percentage is nearly impossible to define). And if you have lot of bad luck in a game you loose, with luck you can beat stronger opponents.

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210195.34 in reply to 210195.33
Date: 3/6/2012 5:08:34 PM
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If there weren't luck in this game, good and bad, it would be boring as hell.

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210195.35 in reply to 210195.32
Date: 3/6/2012 11:23:51 PM
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I don't like the "bad luck" explanations because, well, they doesn't point out to anything we as managers can do or understand.


I think it was BB-Marin who said some things depend on luck, we can't change that with our choices and it resembles real life, where I agree. I guess we are too accustomed that various computer games let us master them and nothing depends on luck there.


I'm not trying to deny the, sometimes, quite strong random effect on buzzerbeater. Just pointing out that "bad luck" should be the last explanation to be offered, because if you always blame the random factor, there is no room for learning.

Most of the time I see the random factor affecting a few parts of the analisys but here, it seems to be omnipresent in almost every category. When that happens, you have two posible choices: A) Really strong random effect B) You are missing something.

Just trying to think if B is plausible or not.

Last edited by Zero, the Magi. at 3/6/2012 11:25:16 PM

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