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214325.25 in reply to 214325.23
Date: 4/11/2012 3:12:28 PM
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Another question that needed to be answered - does a team earn money each year, or just losses money?


serious first division team loose money, players getting older, salaries need to be paid and mostly exceells the income, the arena ;) So that the reason why so many old team are there, yes you need some time to have an first division enviroment, but playing at high level means in 90% of the cases to lose money.
And that explains why they don't get broke, but only get more dominant and unbeatable by newer teams..
Yeah... Right...Sure...

In case you forgot:
Last season (as far as I remember), the order of the teams in Germany first division had been exactly upon order they had joined the game.
It must be because they are "losing" money each season.
It is known fact that "losing" money makes the team stronger, because they "try harder", or something like that...

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214325.26 in reply to 214325.25
Date: 4/11/2012 3:15:48 PM
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maybe the younger teams should buy older rosters ;) But this is more for the help forum, to explain that for you.

I still remember you saying, that those palyer doesn't loose value, when i just sold him:

(4587237) which you even used as example ;)

Another long time player for my team: (4595070) sure they gain value ... And yes selling him gave me still money, to survive evenw ith a bigger pay check for a while, in buying a cheaper player with a bigger salary. And while i was looking for him i even earned some money.


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214325.28 in reply to 214325.24
Date: 4/11/2012 3:27:33 PM
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Yes, there were 13 seasons, but a team that joined in season 14 for example would not be able to get to the top league by season 17, so you're already arguing from a flawed base with that. So what you're really saying is that no team from seasons 5-13 were not in the top division by season 17 (though I suppose, in theory, you could have seen teams in season 14 placed in IV). And going straight from V-IV-III-II-I is practically an unreasonable expectation as well; a fairly ambitious projection would be a team promoting every two seasons -- meaning a team joining later than season 9 could not reasonably expect to make it to the top (they'd spend 9-10 in V, 11-12 in IV, 13-14 in III, 15-16 in II and promote for season 17). Suddenly your 13 seasons are reduced to five, and even that group requires very optimistic appraisals of how long it takes to promote.
Even when you are trying to reduce it with a logic with no base, you still get 25% of BB-community with only teams from the first four division and not the other later five (you narrowed down into) at those first divisions.

Although much less important, why did you decided that two seasons is the number?
Does a good BB-manager should have trouble on the lowest divisions?
I mean, when neglecting the current state where what is main importance for promoting is not the quality of the BB-manager but the date he joined...

So basically, once again, you didn't explained that.

And if the new user is no better a manager than the old user, there is no reason at all that it is a problem for him to never pass the other.
No one said differently.
But what you didn't answer again is the other case that currently exists.

Two users, with the same BB-managing qualities, that had joined at two different seasons, will never be able to compete, and the one who had joined first will forever be before the later one.

But can you point to one of these "worse" managers who succeeds in spite of a "better" manager, who you may also identify? If this is such a problem in the game environment, surely you must have plenty of documented examples to illustrate the problem
For doing that, we will need to go over each desicion one have made and give a score for that.
This is not practical.

You are trying an arguement that is equal to the question "prove that you don't have a sister".
No matter what you will say about that, you couldn't prove it wrong.

What can be asked, and still haven't been explained is how does the cases I've brought, about Spain, Italy, France and Germany [More than 25% of the BB-community], can happen if the system is OK, and there is no competitiveness problem on this game who gives older teams an misfair advantage.

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214325.29 in reply to 214325.26
Date: 4/11/2012 3:33:08 PM
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maybe the younger teams should buy older rosters ;) But this is more for the help forum, to explain that for you.

I still remember you saying, that those palyer doesn't loose value, when i just sold him:

(4587237) which you even used as example ;)

Another long time player for my team: (4595070) sure they gain value ... And yes selling him gave me still money, to survive evenw ith a bigger pay check for a while, in buying a cheaper player with a bigger salary. And while i was looking for him i even earned some money.

Edit2: Typical Weekly Net Income: $ -269 029, and yes it is biased, since i wouldn't bought Nuno if i don't try to run for the B3, which cost me roughly 100k each week. ;)
It is nice of you giving a single week example that is not relevnat to anything.

In case you are losing money each season, you would get broke.
Unless, your advantage is not by growing each season, but because you have such a big amount of money in the bank that you can allow those losses.
And those money had been gained on those same seasons that gave you the benefit, and in any case creates the same uncompeititve problem.

To win a B3, one needs to invest much more than ususal, and may lose money for that.
That team will not do it each season, and when they do it is because they have such a big cushion that it will not matter in the long run.
So in any case - Not relevant.

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214325.30 in reply to 214325.27
Date: 4/11/2012 3:37:41 PM
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The reason, in case you've forgotten:

How can anyone forget those words? You spam them in each and every thread several times.
And i find it hard to see why this is the reasons this game is not growing. It takes time to catch up to a team that has been here for almost 15 seasons. If one could in no time this game sure would be doomed.

Is this your answer why in France, Italy, Spain (etc.) there where teams only from season 1-4 but not a single one from season 5, nor 6, nor 7, nor 8, nor 9, nor 10, nor 11, nor 12, nor 13, nor 14, nor 15, nor 16, nor 17...

Why a season-5 team cannot get to the first division after twelve seasons!!!
The answer - the competitiveness issue raised here - they have less money (and will always have) comparing to a team with a manager, with the same BB-managing skills, who joined the game earlier (even by a single season as we saw)...

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214325.32 in reply to 214325.31
Date: 4/11/2012 3:44:40 PM
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Right. And as I fail to see anything that is a true suggestion (or an explanation how it should work or whatever) here but a dispute of the mentioned bias and selective data, the suggestions forum is the wrong place for it to be. Thread closed.

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214325.33 in reply to 214325.29
Date: 4/11/2012 3:45:11 PM
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It is nice of you giving a single week example that is not relevnat to anything.


then say me what is the difference to next week, and the week before ... This is my current balance ;) I make 150k every week after getting my replacement for PF, before that i was +50 which give me 100k which doesn't can make the loss u i got from an aging roster.