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244556.25 in reply to 244556.22
Date: 7/5/2013 1:13:35 PM
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Yup. (16629319). Bought him on Wed. and GS dropped from 9 to 6. Played 44 minutes on Thursday and now GS is at 8.

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Date: 7/5/2013 3:17:45 PM
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Here is some observation on a limited amount of data so far (GS1 is GS before the sale and GS2 is after the player was sold; the same with DMI1 and DMI2).

GS1	GS2	DMI1	DMI2	↓ DMI %
9	6	382200	87000	77.24%
9	6	252200	58900	76.65%
9	7	173100	49000	71.69%
9	7	1114300	319300	71.35%
9	7	144300	44500	69.16%
9	6	188900	46800	75.22%
9	6	892200	243800	72.67%


GS1	GS2	DMI1	DMI2	↓ DMI %
8	6	29,200	8,200	71.92%
8	6	162,800	44100	72.91%
8	6	213,200	61300	71.25%
8	6	18100	9100	49.72%
8	6	532300	281700	47.08%
8	6	47600	14100	70.38%
8	6	411600	207200	49.66%
8	6	22400	7200	67.86%
8	6	259300	123500	52.37%
8	5	85800	42100	50.93%
8	6	405200	138700	65.77%
8	6	122800	33800	72.48%
8	5	114600	34800	69.63%
8	6	42500	23200	45.41%
8	5	338400	150300	55.59%
8	6	34500	10400	69.86%


It's obvious that it is difficult to estimate the exact GS hit for levels of GS <9 because of the sub-levels of GS.

And from the shown data it is obvious that even at level 9 GS there are differences of GS hit which suggest there is a random factor in the formula.

Last edited by Onisifor at 7/5/2013 3:20:16 PM

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244556.28 in reply to 244556.22
Date: 7/12/2013 8:56:46 AM
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Yeah I purchased a 60k 23 year old and his GS dropped from 7 to 5. I played him 52 minutes this week and he jumped to 8 GS!

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Date: 7/13/2013 11:16:09 PM
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Bought a 32 yo 40k bigman average GS when bought. Played 53 minutes that week and GS went up to respectable after training. IMHO this isn't what I envisioned the GS hit would be. Was expecting something harsher.

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244556.31 in reply to 244556.30
Date: 7/14/2013 11:15:26 PM
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I believe the hit is only important when you are buying players with good GS. I had a proficient GS go to average.

From: Onisifor

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Date: 7/16/2013 12:48:46 PM
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The bigger the pre-sale GS the bigger the GS hit after the sale. But, you can also experience GS drop even when buying a player in GS level 5. Out of 113 players that I've monitored (which is very low amount of data), the GS drop were as follows:

Pre-sale GS	GS After Sale	How many Players
5		4		2
5		5		8

6		5		6
6		6		2

7		5		9
7		6		17

8		5		6
8		6		27
8		7		3

9		6		17
9		7		8


Even when the after sale GS remains at the level of the pre-sale GS (which is seen only at GS level <7), you are experiencing a drop in the GS (the sub-levels). That is easily shown by monitoring the value of the pre-sale DMI and after-sale DMI. For example, one player preserved his GS after the sale at level 6, but the value of DMI had dropped from 30,900 to 25,700 (which is ↓16.83%). This drop will also affect his performance. I'm trying to say that any GS drop, whether it is level or sub-level drop, is important.

As I've mentioned earlier in the thread, it is obvious that there is a random factor in the formula.