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Cheating/Farming whatever you call it is not a big deal for BB. I think BB's think like me.


/OH WAIT!! You answered me in 1 sentence! I see progress!

Last edited by Pewu at 6/25/2013 7:36:45 AM

The thing is eventually players are going to be sold, specially in the latter part of their careers. I have a NT prospect myself and selling him is a very very likely scenario, and Serbia NT manager has no say in the question.

It is obvious that it is just as hard to cheat either for farming or for sabotage.

I only focus on sabotage because it is what we have experienced in Spain's community. Being a big country big teams of managers are needed to do the workload. In that scenario farming is not possible as you dont know what the others in the NT staff would say. It is just too big a risk and thank god for that.

On the other hand we experienced an ex-national manager using a ghost team to buy Italian starting Center. He got caught and banned, and even after making a new team the community has ostracized him and has lost 4 elections in a row. Also some important assets (both prospects or actual NT players) have been subgect to different kinds of sabotaging. That is why I am so concerned.

About the BB buying players, it is not a good solution but it is a solution. Patching up some holes it could be not as bad as free farming anyway. The problem is that something that increases the workload of BB personel will not be implemented, I dont think that is the path we should walk. We need something automatic, something in the ranks of not listing banned players as FA, but with conditions that allow us protection against sabotaging.

I think the best option is just not listing banned players as FA and if the NT team is interested they should contact a GM and ask for the player to be placed in the transfer list. The workload is nearly nil as it will be a rare ocurance and only the hard part is left.

What conditions players do get placed on the transfer list and what conditions they dont.

Hi !
I did not read all the posts (but the most part of them).
Can i summerize the whole thing in :
A player that went to FA once cannot be in a NT. ?

If a NT player is homegrown, i don't think his owner will let his team go bot --> not the case.
If a NT player is a farm product : 2 scenarios :
a - the team is a farm "fake" that will go bot --> FA
b - the team is an active one --> the active team cannot afford the salary from certain point --> the owner will try to sell the guy --> it opens the way to the "sabotage" from other NT "conspirators". I find it quite balanced.
Farm products won't make it long in NT.

The only point hard to predict here is the TL part ...

If the guy that trained him can't pay his salary...why do we have to keep that player in teh game of BB???? WHY??? Its not a player trained well for use in a real team...why find some artificial way to keep it around for NT?

What about a D3 team who can't handle the salary of his player, but trained him that way for two reasons:
1) chance to get in NT one day
2) possibility to sell him for a good price to big clubs

Is he a farm just because he train a player well ?

This.

If the guy that trained him can't pay his salary...why do we have to keep that player in teh game of BB???? WHY??? Its not a player trained well for use in a real team...why find some artificial way to keep it around for NT?

it is not a NT problem. In populated countries div I teams rarely train young players as they need a competitive team. They train players that are able to improve and compete in their leagues (mainly 24-27 yo).

Myself being a III team, I train players 20-24 yo, younger players would mean a significant drop in performance you just cannot afford in this leages.

And if I train a player to my salary limit (lets say 90k for my league) and have to sell him, 90k SF with 120 skills is a player that is not trained well and not usable for a real team?.

In this leagues you need to train for profit, every season we see 4 or 5 +300k salary teams in III division and promoting teams reach +400k salaries, yo need to make for losses somewhere and usually its training.

If the guy that trained him can't pay his salary...why do we have to keep that player in teh game of BB???? WHY??? Its not a player trained well for use in a real team...why find some artificial way to keep it around for NT?

What about a D3 team who can't handle the salary of his player, but trained him that way for two reasons:
1) chance to get in NT one day
2) possibility to sell him for a good price to big clubs

Is he a farm just because he train a player well ?

Of course! If you want to train a player for the NT you have to be in I. Just like B3, added features in the games are only for the elite of the elite and the rest of the league structure doesn't matter because it doesn't exist anyway in many countries. If you're not winning B3, your opinions don't matter! ;)

I now need to add a minor suggestion for a sarcasm font.