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305593.26 in reply to 305593.25
Date: 8/13/2020 4:57:52 AM
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130 TSP? What planet do you live on, man? Do you even have a clue of what a 'top player' is? Do you not see the NON-NT players with 140+ TSP on B3 teams? If you're lucky 130-135 is good enough to regularly mop up minutes in any normal NT, not to start, unless it's a big man with truly elite primaries (can't be MVP) or a gimmick player. There are currently 80 players with 130+ TSP on the TL.

The problem here is not how much I know (newsflash: I have reached 150 TSP on my trainees, so I know enough), but how much you don't know and the disinformation you spread.

Players with 130 TSP are good players, they will help you win in D1, and that's about it. They are quite common and they won't start in most NTs. I trained a Superstar to the mid 130s in the past, 130 v 150 is like 110 v 130: night and day.

I currently have 2 players STARTING for my NT (meaning they started every game as far as I know), I've had other trainees playing for my NT in the past and one of my inferior trainees from my last batch did regularly play for Italy as a backup for a couple of seasons. You may remember him (40191705) since he started against Serbia in this game (52791) that eliminated your NT from the competition. Acerbi is the perfect example: he was just shy of 140 TSP -with 1 RB- and he spawned at 19yo, but, as I said, he was the inferior trainee, he only had 2 skills better than my main trainee (which I drafted), one being SB. I also always trained while competing in D1 in England and D2 (mostly) in Utopia. Note that if a player gets low or no minutes in the NT you don't get any merch or fan survey bonus.


Now go on, keep explaining about how good 19yo draftees are, maybe with 8 or 9 potential, because you can reach 130 TSP while using a farm D3 team.The only reason they are good at all is that they can be bought cheap on the TL, but this defies the whole purpose of scouting and drafting them.


PS. lol now I have even seen the players you listed, eh. Man, how clueless you are.
(42024651) Garbage, that's just thoroughly incompetent training: 21 HA/DR 12 (!) PA and no outside shooting to speak of. If you wanted to make a LI PG the PA is just too low, if you wanted to make him a SF, his ID is nowhere near enough and JS also too low. 1.5 million TPE seems about right...bought for 4 million lmao. 1v1 was trained so much that there was no time to train primaries...sad, but unfortunately these things happen with incompetent trainers and 19yo trainees: because you have 1 fewer training season, you either have to give up some 1v1 training, leading to less elastic or you do set up the elastic effect as you would with a 18yo and end up like this, with the player severely lacking primaries left and right.

(42023913) This guy played a total of 4 games out of 10 for your NT this season. His inside skills (IS) must be so bad that he has not been selected, not even as a backup, ahead of 100k, 80k and EVEN 66k salary players for tactics other than outside tactics.

The other 2 are not even fringe NT players like the first bad one you linked. Logically, they must be worse than him and not good enough to mop up minutes instead of injured players or players in bad GS.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/13/2020 10:27:17 AM

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305593.27 in reply to 305593.26
Date: 8/13/2020 5:16:46 PM
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More interesting reads on this topic in the bugs forums: (305545.8).

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305593.28 in reply to 305593.25
Date: 8/14/2020 5:02:20 AM
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I have trained a 19 year old with better skills than all that you mentioned and that was before he turned 27. That said, you're still missing the point.

It is far better to train an 18 year old to 140 tsp and have 5-6 seasons at their peak while training the next trainees than to train a 19 year old up to his 30s to reach the same level.

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305593.31 in reply to 305593.30
Date: 8/16/2020 7:47:43 AM
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Do you even care about 5/5 19yo? Maybe you do since you are in a micronation. As I said, having manually scouted many drafts for the U21 back in the day, having 0 MVP/HoF 18yo was not that rare an occurrence.

Marin already told you he made no change, other people are harping about the many 5/5 they have already found: this is just the way it is. Sometimes there are multiple and sometimes there are none.

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305593.33 in reply to 305593.1
Date: 8/18/2020 11:45:28 AM
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My last draft
2 5/5 1 18yo and 1 19 yo
2 MVPs
80 points for nothing

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