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Date: 3/15/2009 11:59:59 AM
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I see, you have edited your post....

My 18 year-old player had 47+48, that would mean that this minute make about 0.5 skills? Why I think about is in this way you can read in my last post.

Not really. Both 2 pops in 1 week and no pops in 2 weeks are extremely rare occurrences.

In the case of the double-pop, if the player started at, say, 7.99 OD, then he needs 2 trainings of .51 levels each to pop.

If we assume your player starts at 7.01 OD, and gets 1 full training for .51, he gets to 7.52 and needs .47 levels not to pop.

.47/.51 is ~ .94%, which means 1 minute loses you about 8% of training.

This is, of course, the absolute minimum. Rumor is 1 minute is a much more severe loss -- some people place it at as much as 15-25%.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 3/15/2009 12:05:36 PM

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Date: 3/15/2009 12:21:44 PM
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You are right and I have no idea how I came to 1,51 ;)

So lets say that you have approximately ~0.5 pops per training in OD (2 position, level 5 coach, 18 years old). That would mean... I'll be back here in this thread on Friday if either the one player pops again or my players wont pop ;) . But it seems still very strange for me to not have any single pop in the last 3 weeks.


From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/15/2009 6:33:13 PM
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Well the ss shows he has popped twise in od. Strange is that I can not see his mouse but the text writes he has also popped in od last week. What kind of trainer does this guy use? In div4 in germany. He has 2 good outside trainees but he played this guy in pg spot making it a possibility that he trained 1 spot. I would love to see the estonian dude's pops:) If he has popped aswell this week then there is no argument here anymore and I am wrong. If he does not want to share the skills in this forum you can always bb-mail me the ss.

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May I ask, why you don't believe me and/or him? You can't see the mouse... I don'T know why, but this could probably have several reasons. If you want to find a fly in the ointment, you will always find it. Fact is... he trained 2 positions with a level 5 trainer.

I have problems to understand your last two sentences, but if I understand it right... than you will find the solution in the second screenshot.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 3/16/2009 1:29:59 AM
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What I ment was: I would like to see Riivo Lootsmann's stats and has he improved in OD. If he has then we can be sure has used 2 pos training atleast one week.
I think it's great if it is actually possible and I would love to be wrong in this case. If he has not meddled with ss and did actually train 2 pos then I just need to stop sucking and find better trainees:P

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Date: 3/16/2009 4:29:59 AM
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May if ask, if you really mean like you wrote it? You still think that either me or my friend is lying and now also manipulate screens just to give you and anybody else a wrong idea of the training?

If you go and visit a city and you want to visit a famous place in this city. You are unable to find it and ask a person on the streets if he can show you where to go? Do you also ask his person to prove it again and again? I doubt it!

I mentioned the facts more than once in my previous posts and now its up to you. Believe it or not, I wont give any further commentaries on this. I will come back to this topic on Friday and tell if I still think, that there could be something wrong with the training or not. But I wont write anymore about the "prove it!"-posts.

Yogi

From: Kukoc

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Have you just entered internet? People tend to lie for fame or personal gain even in real life. Perhaps I am more sceptical than a common Joe but I have seen my share of cheaters, hackers, liers in my career. Do you yourself think it's not bizarre that you can not get a pop in 3 weeks while your friend get's em 2 weeks in a row on the same type of player that you are training? Training speed analyzes thread also states that is not something that can be obtained in 2 pos training. Too many con's vs not enough pro's tend to get people interested. That's why I would like some proof that he is using 2 pos training and not just 1 pos as the dude we are talking about get's played at PG. It just boggles my mind as I have never been able to dublicate this on my team not even with 1 pos training and I had a pretty decent pg for that last year.

From: CrazyEye

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That's more like Paint.

From: Milly

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Date: 3/18/2009 10:02:01 AM
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Try "One on One" (even chosen for Team) and you will have pops allover ... (It's a secret so don't tell anyone).

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