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152075.250 in reply to 152075.248
Date: 7/29/2010 9:30:49 AM
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You are funny,man,really
Show me the post where I said that BB should give money to the country because of their BB population
I ALWAYS said that the system should give money for the competitivity.If the first Iceland division catch up the first Italian division,the incomes would be exactly the same,so what are you saying?
And I never said that Italian first division need a boost,you are saying the false,man
The problem is in the lower divisions,where it's not acceptable the current situation,as I said in numerous posts,but not again for population,but for the different competitivity and the different weekly balance

Please,stop saying the false and stop joking

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152075.251 in reply to 152075.250
Date: 7/29/2010 9:42:52 AM
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well, you get money what you are worth. first of all as mentioned by others TV money is determined by league strength. as for arena income, it is determined by you winning and by fan bases (yours and yours opponet). I really cant see how italians are so different from other countrys. I really cant. You take in comparing contrys that have 10-20 users(and not everyone is active). how cant 50 users so much influence italian league, that has 5k users? if they 'steal' a player from someone (which is wrong saying, if someone saved money for that specific guy), from the same standpoint they buy from someone for highier price (who is probably italian, as you have 5k managers). If you train players, that have no market value, then sorry mate, you are not great manager ant maybe, just maybe you belong to lower divisions. try to cut on salarys, get solid draft and compete. BB is where only the strongest survive. I bet there are italians, that have solid profit and pretty decent results

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152075.252 in reply to 152075.250
Date: 7/29/2010 9:48:58 AM
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the only joke is what your asking for .
the people in your league are under the same restraints as you, the only way you will beat them is by managing your team better then they manage theres. its that simple.

if bb increases the money in your league because its more competitive what will that change exactly ?

your league opponents will get the same increase , you will all upgrade your team and be in the exact same situation again , what then ?

you ask for more money again i bet.

the current system is fine you just need to manage your team better then your opponents.

to be clear im not saying your a bad manager , i actually think your a good manager, but finding a way to win within the same restraints that your opponents have is the challange of this game and is what will also define you as a great manager.

the current system is fair for everybody , yes smaller countries make more of a profit because of less competition but as time goes by each team will keep upgading there rosters pushing for promotion or the div 1 title and soon enough they will be on the level of italy or germany.

the games still young n evolving , keeping things far across the world is far more important then singling out competitive leagues and giving them more money which by the way wont fix the problem at all.

Last edited by zyler at 7/29/2010 9:50:16 AM

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152075.253 in reply to 152075.205
Date: 7/29/2010 10:39:10 AM
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Its time for transfer contracts that tie down players to teams and that can reward longer term planners.


1000% agreed

I also think that a cap on total weekly salary that reflects training as a bell curve, meaning early training cheap - then more expensive - then cheaper again as the weekly salary gets very expensive, would encourage keeping star players (make them very valuable for trade and long term contracts). The use of contracts would add great depth to the management part of the game.

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152075.254 in reply to 152075.253
Date: 7/29/2010 12:53:28 PM
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I like that idea.

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Date: 7/29/2010 3:55:33 PM
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And what about the idea, that FA should be only from, lets say 50k?

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152075.256 in reply to 152075.255
Date: 7/29/2010 4:09:45 PM
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I think this variant is quite ridiculous, because salary doesn't always show how good is a player :)

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152075.257 in reply to 152075.255
Date: 7/29/2010 4:18:34 PM
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the Fa should be released looking at the sum of their primary skills,with a limit in the minimum of every of these skills(i.e. for a guard the sum of JS-OD-JR with a minimum of 35 as sum of primary skills and a minimum of 13 for JS,11 for OD and 9 for JR;these are not precise numbers)
As rightly Flash said,salary alone isn't a good way to evaluate players,looking only at the salary thaere will be released players with high handling and driving and low JS and OD for example

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152075.258 in reply to 152075.250
Date: 7/29/2010 6:02:18 PM
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And I never said that Italian first division need a boost,you are saying the false,man
The problem is in the lower divisions,where it's not acceptable the current situation,as I said in numerous posts,but not again for population,but for the different competitivity and the different weekly balance
Do you understand that you actually are asking for a raise in divII "salary cap", what would it change? Do you understand that teams would still get to that cap, in order to compete and would still be near 0 income. Then you are in the same situation again.
How is raising divII income instead of divI. If you have more competitive league, you will get more TV income money.
I ALWAYS said that the system should give money for the competitivity.If the first Iceland division catch up the first Italian division,the incomes would be exactly the same,so what are you saying?
Try to follow now. If the Iceland divI is catching up that means theyr quality is raising. They are lowering their income by getting better quality players. Italy already have those players and are playing near cap. What you are suggesting is. Give the same income to leagues teams that already have high quality players. Thus making impossible for anyone to catch up. If you want to make more money. Win the league (beating 15 managers) and promote. Are you saying it's impossible to promote in Italy?

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152075.259 in reply to 152075.257
Date: 7/30/2010 1:58:07 AM
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I agree, but I think FA should be really good guys. no point of having lame FA's

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Date: 7/30/2010 1:15:51 PM
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I've read some messages and im a bit astonished...

There's different issues here, but about one topic: Why the ''big countries'' make complain about economy I'm going to put an example from spanish champion team in Div 1: (78204)

He made an awesome move, even if he competes for being champion on Spain, he shares the transfer list with all the users from BB. From his transfer history look at this: (its recently)

-He bought (5733623) for5,4 I can assure this is the 2 or 3 best PG on Spain.

-He sold Daugotas Gincbergas(4748745) for 6,6M

So apart from that Betanzos is MUCH better than the lituanian SG, he also will have to pay less in his salary and he was able to win money on the operation ¡¡¡


So dont tell us that the ''big'' -medium - little countrys are playing different roles, when we are sharing a global market. Problably the Denmark manager that bought the lituanian is doing now the ''harakiri'' for paying 6,6M on that player, but im sure that since he is on a little country he will have no problem to have money again.

If i would be a manager from the spanish Div 1 I would laugh a lot to all the comments that say that big countries play different roles, when if you are smart enough to make a big move on the transfer market you can make such an imbalance on your own league and same things goes for Div II-III...



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