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14900.253 in reply to 14900.252
Date: 12/17/2008 6:20:35 AM
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You lost a rather close match-up where the TO indeed made the difference.
In my opinion you would've more chances to win when playing 2-3 zone, he took 13 offensive rebounds and he was playing look inside.
With an inside focused defense he had a hard time trying to score, less off rebounds and the number of steals you took with your 3-2 was only 2, so you won't miss those by playing another defense.

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Date: 12/17/2008 8:07:16 AM
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Thanks for your comments.

You are right, 2-3 would have been a much better choice. I didn't expect inside attack but outside attack, that's why.

What I am still uncomfortable about is that all given explanations do not consider the superiority of my ratings.

Taking the answers given I would have lost as well with an inside attack of 13 instead of 8. That cannot be it.

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Date: 12/17/2008 9:24:13 AM
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Thanks for your comments.

You are right, 2-3 would have been a much better choice. I didn't expect inside attack but outside attack, that's why.

What I am still uncomfortable about is that all given explanations do not consider the superiority of my ratings.

Taking the answers given I would have lost as well with an inside attack of 13 instead of 8. That cannot be it.


When you look at the player stats, your center and PF scored at a very decent percentage while the other players missed a lot more.
--> Your inside attack stats are based a lot upon the stats of PF/C so although they did their job, the other players failed to score equally.
I assume your score percentages would be higher if your other players had also more inside scoring.

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14900.256 in reply to 14900.255
Date: 12/17/2008 9:52:37 AM
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You are again right.

Being originally a ht-player I tend to give a lot to ratings. I like the BB-idea of certain influences beyond ratings, because that leaves vast varieties of deepening the game-understanding and opportunities to improve.

BB would benefit if some of the "hidden" aspects would become more clear to more managers.


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Date: 12/17/2008 10:02:43 AM
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BB would benefit if some of the "hidden" aspects would become more clear to more managers.

There's nothing hidden in this aspect: scoring opportunities are decided by individual match-ups. In other words, imagine that each shot at the basket is a miniature one-on-one game between player X and the player guarding him. How this "game" works out is calculated by a comparison of some sort of a combination of player skills and the relevant team ratings.

Moreover, I have no idea whether all your turnovers were caused by low offensive flow, since I have no clue what the skills of your players are. Mathematically speaking, however, the extra turnovers did cost you 12 points, which was the difference in the game. Finding what the problem is and how to fix it -- that's already your job as a manager of your own team

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 12/17/2008 11:20:35 AM
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BB would benefit if some of the "hidden" aspects would become more clear to more managers.

There's nothing hidden in this aspect: scoring opportunities are decided by individual match-ups. In other words, imagine that each shot at the basket is a miniature one-on-one game between player X and the player guarding him. How this "game" works out is calculated by a comparison of some sort of a combination of player skills and the relevant team ratings.

Moreover, I have no idea whether all your turnovers were caused by low offensive flow, since I have no clue what the skills of your players are. Mathematically speaking, however, the extra turnovers did cost you 12 points, which was the difference in the game. Finding what the problem is and how to fix it -- that's already your job as a manager of your own team :P

Thank you, your post includes quite some valuable aspects.

But even though I risk to be too redundant: all explanations would also apply if my superiority in the relevant attack comparison would have been even much higher or lower. That's the last unsatisfying bit...

And now to something completely different! I am glad to understand that "nothing hidden in this aspect" goes so well together with "How this "game" works out is calculated by a comparison of some sort of a combination of player skills and the relevant team ratings."

*lol*
(no harm meant)


Last edited by Pallu at 12/17/2008 11:22:13 AM

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Date: 12/17/2008 11:48:00 AM
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And now to something completely different! I am glad to understand that "nothing hidden in this aspect" goes so well together with "How this "game" works out is calculated by a comparison of some sort of a combination of player skills and the relevant team ratings."

*lol*
(no harm meant)

I am not quite sure what you mean by hidden in this aspect. Obviously, the exact algorithms used by the GE will not be laid out in public -- I think you'll agree this is not an unreasonable suggestion. I don't think there is any deliberate obfuscation there.

As for my answer, I wasn't going to quote the entire Game Engine page of the rules (it's quite long), but I'd recommend it to everyone who has questions about how the game works: (/BBWeb/rules.aspx?nav=GameEngine).

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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14900.260 in reply to 14900.259
Date: 12/18/2008 12:52:41 PM
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(10298638) Why? Is it bad tactics? Or too much fouls? Or smt else?

Last edited by profit007 at 12/18/2008 12:53:18 PM

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Date: 12/18/2008 10:21:38 PM
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I take it by the lack of responses i was right in thinking i shouldn't have lost?

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14900.262 in reply to 14900.261
Date: 12/19/2008 1:38:26 AM
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I'd probably say stamina was the main factor here. You can see that your team gets progressively worse as the game go's on and especially in the last quarter, he ran over the top.

Tactics and everything else were pretty much a non-factor from what i can see (although he had a lot more free throws as well)

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Date: 12/19/2008 2:50:00 PM
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here we go..what do you guys says?

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