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161502.255 in reply to 161502.254
Date: 4/5/2011 5:04:48 PM
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It was meant as complete suggestion, no indenpendent points. If it was done as you suggested it would totally destroy complexity of the suggestion.

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161502.256 in reply to 161502.255
Date: 4/5/2011 5:20:19 PM
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It was meant as complete suggestion, no indenpendent points. If it was done as you suggested it would totally destroy complexity of the suggestion.

As complete suggestion it would be a complete disaster,in my opinion,for the reasons I mentioned in my post,although I think some points are interesting if integrated as remedial in the actual sistem

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161502.257 in reply to 161502.256
Date: 4/6/2011 1:15:08 AM
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2), 3) without 1) would completely destroy top teams unless the prize money is really high, but I think of just small prize money so I thing your worries are irrelevant.
4) prize for the winning relegation series is right to play the same division next season, no need to give them more advantage comparing to 5th
5) you probably didn't mention change in TV contract formula at the start of this season due to this economic changes, so even deeper change of this way could be compensate this way
6) this point is only one which could be removed without breaking the complexity of suggestion

And I don't see problem with cap between top teams and the others. For example in our league mid table teams have every week much higher Net Income than top teams (mainly due to lower salaries), they only can't handle well with the money and that's why they still remain as middle table teams.

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161502.258 in reply to 161502.257
Date: 4/6/2011 11:54:49 AM
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You didin't understand my thought
I'm not trying to change your suggestion,I'm not basing on it because I didn't consider it good

I was trying to take some idea from your suggestion,work on it,and use them in a rearranged way to fix the actual system,that really isn't that bad,but really needs to be tuned
I think that in PO,the source of incomes could be shifted completely from arena attendence to an established kind of prize money to the winner,as like in B3.The entity of these prize money should be some kind of multiplier of TV contract,to give money related to the level of the league.The teams that loses would however receive some extra money from TV for broadcasting the playoff/playout games for every week the team is still playing official games

Example:A plays against B in the first round of the playoffs
A wins
A receive a prize money from the league to advance to the next round equal to 1,75xbasic Tv contract
B receives 0,75xbasic Tv contract as bonus in the week

In same week A plays against C in the semifinals
A wins
A receive a prize money from the league to advance to the next round equal to 1,75xbasic Tv contract
C receives nothing because they yet receives the prize money for winning in the first round of the playoffs

Another example:
A plays against B in the relegation series
A wins game 1 and receives 1.5x basic Tv contract
A wins game 2 and receives 1.5x basic Tv contract
B receives for the entire week 0,5xbasic Tv contract


Last edited by Steve Karenn at 4/6/2011 12:10:47 PM

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161502.259 in reply to 161502.258
Date: 4/6/2011 12:15:53 PM
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Your suggestion applied to our Div I makes it even harder for all teams in playoff, as they would received even less money as now.
And I totally missed solution for 5th place, which would be still better than 4th if salary system stays as it is now.

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161502.260 in reply to 161502.259
Date: 4/6/2011 12:27:33 PM
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I make an example,it's clear that the multiplier of Tv contract can change from top to bottom divisions(higher multipliers in higher divisions)

I think that the money give as TV bonus for losing teams should partially come from 5th and 8th placed teams Tv contract(These teams should receive a Tv contract reduced by an half or a quarter during the post seasons weeks)

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161502.261 in reply to 161502.260
Date: 4/6/2011 12:55:07 PM
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One team in my division has given walkover in the last match and he finished in 5th position. Probably this is not linked to the wo, he only forgot to set the roster... :p

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