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From: BigT
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Date: 9/6/2015 4:26:51 PM
TheRainmakers
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Hello I have a question for 2 games:

Would i have won this one without using GDP

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/85765025/boxscore.aspx

Would i have lost this one without GDP

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/85765046/boxscore.aspx


Does anyone know how strong GDP is? How much it really gives you an advantage?

Last edited by BigT at 9/6/2015 4:27:23 PM

From: Lemonshine

To: BigT
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Date: 9/6/2015 4:59:32 PM
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I doubt you win the first game without correct GDP as the difference was very big with 2 incorrect guesses. The only way I can think you win without GDP is if his PG takes many more shots than he did and Patient comes back to bite him...

The same way I think you won't lose the second game even without GDP. Big difference there as well.

I've seen different theories about the effect of GDP, but everyone seems to agree that the overall effect is about 10% extra defense, if you get 2 correct guesses. Some say it's +-7% for correct focus guess and +-3% for correct pace guess, others say it's more 5%/5%. I'm personally inclined to think that focus gives a little more than pace, but I have done no experiments on the subject.




Last edited by Lemonshine at 9/6/2015 5:00:05 PM

From: HAHA
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Date: 9/13/2015 1:21:42 AM
HAHA001
IBL
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I lost this game, especially the 4th quarter (19 - 37). Why did my C (27772970) perform so bad? His salary is around 150K, so I expect he would score 15 points and grab 15 rebounds (or something similar) under look inside strategy.

His rating is not bad, and the points per 100 shots is better than the opponent's C. How come he did not perform very well?

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Date: 9/13/2015 2:37:33 AM
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mediocre (medium) Outside Scoring prominent (medium)
prolific (high) Inside Scoring respectable (medium)
strong (high) Perimeter Defense prominent (low)
proficient (high) Inside Defense proficient (medium)
strong (high) Rebounding respectable (low)
average (medium) Offensive Flow respectable (high)

I would say you need more passing on your team in general and/or your point guard.
Your average (medium) flow didn't cut it against his prominent (low) perimeter defense. That is quite a large gap.

When your center takes 8 shots in a game in LI, he isn't getting the ball enough. Plus he had 5 turnovers, so his handling must not be the best (though it was his worst game of the year) and when he does get the ball, he fumbles it away.

Maybe just a bad matchup against the other center's defense, or just a bad game spit out from the GE for him.

Perhaps see if it is a trend that the other center holds his opponent to sub-par games, or just that your game stands out as being very unlucky. I'm tired and writing this is using my last points of BB energy for the night.

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From: HAHA
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Date: 11/8/2015 8:19:40 AM
HAHA001
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(87673393) ... I know it's an away playoff game, but my team had better game rating and players had better rating too.

3rd quarter is a mystery.

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Date: 11/18/2015 6:13:20 AM
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Why loss this game? (88112214)

My team at Home court more Team spirit +1 (6 vs 5) and Pereg SI best shooter player defence my 17 OD player... but 38 points. My team strongest Inside scoring by Pereg SI Ins Defence and +23 rebound on match and higher offensive flow

I not understand....

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Date: 11/18/2015 7:19:53 AM
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Why loss this game? (88112214)

My team at Home court more Team spirit +1 (6 vs 5) and Pereg SI best shooter player defence my 17 OD player... but 38 points. My team strongest Inside scoring by Pereg SI Ins Defence and +23 rebound on match and higher offensive flow

I not understand....



You made same amount of baskets, he just had 9 more 3s (thus the 9 more points). He took more shots than you and had less turnovers and less fouls.
Your 21 offensive rebounds didn't seem to turn into points often.

Basically even though your flow was better, his team made better use of their possessions.

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Date: 11/21/2015 11:02:30 PM
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First time posting in this thread tonights game is really a questionable one. I took it easy as I thought I would get the win against someone who hasn't been in the league that long. But I underestimated him and loss.
Adonis Followers 19 22 22 26 89
Boston Aftershocks 21 36 18 23 98




Adonis Followers Team Ratings Boston Aftershocks

Low Post Offensive Strategy Base Offense
Man to Man Defensive Strategy Man to Man

Game-Day Prep
Balanced Focus -- Got it right
Normal Pace -- Got it right

inept (medium) Outside Scoring mediocre (medium)
mediocre (medium) Inside Scoring inept (low)
awful (high) Perimeter Defense inept (low)
inept (high) Inside Defense inept (medium)
mediocre (low) Rebounding awful (medium)
inept (medium) Offensive Flow awful (medium)

(87779259)


Last edited by CoachWard95 at 11/21/2015 11:03:10 PM

Heading on the right path so far. Are you?
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Date: 11/22/2015 8:22:47 AM
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First time posting in this thread tonights game is really a questionable one. I took it easy as I thought I would get the win against someone who hasn't been in the league that long. But I underestimated him and loss.
Adonis Followers 19 22 22 26 89
Boston Aftershocks 21 36 18 23 98




Adonis Followers Team Ratings Boston Aftershocks

Low Post Offensive Strategy Base Offense
Man to Man Defensive Strategy Man to Man

Game-Day Prep
Balanced Focus -- Got it right
Normal Pace -- Got it right

inept (medium) Outside Scoring mediocre (medium)
mediocre (medium) Inside Scoring inept (low)
awful (high) Perimeter Defense inept (low)
inept (high) Inside Defense inept (medium)
mediocre (low) Rebounding awful (medium)
inept (medium) Offensive Flow awful (medium)

(87779259)



to start with you had your C: Barry Louis foul out, and you got outscored by 6 points while his backup was in for less than 2 minutes.

Similar with your SG: Your SG fouled out after playing the other team's SG fairly well... and the guy who backed up at SG let their SG score enough to where opponents SG ended up as a +1 when your starter had him in the negatives.

Your Power Forward was a focal point in the Low post offense and he turned the ball over 6 times, that's half your teams turnovers, and more than half of the other teams.
You might have won this game, if you played Look Inside vs Low Post for that faster tempo as you drew 21 fouls from the other team, and your guards effectively passed the ball around to the inside where your players finished.

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