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In Czech Republic there are some very strong teams, in other countries not, so as in the past there are some teams that every season win cup and championship tournament. In second division I earn weekly less than in first division, the income of the arena is half, merchandising is 1/4 and the contract TV is about 50k lower. If you want to be promoted in first division you've to build a team competitive for the first division, with this economy 1m of bonus is nothing, it means that in second division you've to pay more or less the same salary but your profit is half of a team of first division (if you're lucky).
This is in general, speaking about specialists I think that they are absolutely useless, they are here to bring out money from the global system and I can tell you this because I had best lvl of PR and coach, of course if you think they worth you've to buy them but you would like to have them if you're in first league as in Vth division, many teams of lower division in Italy have top specialists

Yes, but teams in V. league have not sensational players. That was just idea how to suck money from teams which need this kind of players. Is true that in every country is a different situation, but I think that team which can operate at the edge of the power and still earning money, must be bored and I would like to give them an opportunity to have fun again.

Yes Josef probably you're right anyway I will not give the advice to anyone to be relegated and promoted. The fact is that today with 2m you can buy a 18yo or a mediocre player, in season 9 you could buy half roster, I've sold Paolino Brasilian NT for 2,5m on that time...

I think now it can be diffucult for you to rise to Div I, but in some seasons (maybe 10 or 20). Competition will be so strong i the first division that their salaries cannot allow them to make any money, they may even lose money every week. In div II you may gain 100k each week and you can reach a point where you can climb over the edge with the 1m extra.
I think it is because the game isnt in equilibrium yet.
I hope this makes sense:-)

no salaries aren't going to continue to rise for the top players indefinitely... this was the point of the new salary formula.

people are not going to be losing money or earning money hand over fist in the future.

also, when you promote more fans show up to your games, so you will get more fans and can charge higher prices.

the whole point of many of our adjustments lately has been to make that transition between divisions a more manageable jump.

I think now it can be diffucult for you to rise to Div I, but in some seasons (maybe 10 or 20). Competition will be so strong i the first division that their salaries cannot allow them to make any money, they may even lose money every week. In div II you may gain 100k each week and you can reach a point where you can climb over the edge with the 1m extra.
I think it is because the game isnt in equilibrium yet.
I hope this makes sense:-)

Not necessarily true - check Hostivař's (No.3 of the world rank) payroll. And I'm pretty sure he will avoid any high slary deathtrap - so if it is done carefully a dominating team would still make a big profit.

it doesn't make any sense to run a team at a profit... i mean if you are talking about long term profit. You should be spending every cent you have in the long run. Sure you want your weekly operating income to be net positive, but you are just saving to spend it on something else later. Its not like you are getting some benefit from having money in the bank, you can't cash it out of the game, you can't pass it on to your grandkids.

Conversely it makes no sense to be running your team at a loss.. there is no investors going to bail you out, there is no loan you can take on. This argument that everyone in a top division is going to be forced to lose money to compete is simply fallacious... everyone can't be losing money, its not a good strategy in the long term... a team with a better more financially conservative strategy will beat you. Though it is true we don't want the best players to be unaffordable, cause that is sort of silly.. and that's the reason for the new salary changes.

All that really matters is that
1.Everyone can compete if they plan well on the level they currently are playing at.
2.There are advantageous to being in higher divisions to offset the increased competition people will face.
3.That it is possible for a team once promoted to a higher division to compete once they too are receiving these advantageous. This is one of the reasons behind the arenas changes.

you can't cash it out of the game

That sounds like a fine Supporter feature.

Its not like you are getting some benefit from having money in the bank, you can't cash it out of the game, you can't pass it on to your grandkids.

I'm sure I can answer and for sure you'll understand my reply. About the sentence here above there are 2 aspects to consider: 1) I remeber very well season 8 and season 9. Teams that sold every players at the end of season 9 had the money that worthed 5 times more, imho this should never happened again
2) If you want to spend the money you're talking where you can invest it? Not in the arena (capped), in specialist you can invest one time per season (in general not huge cash) so I can see only one way to spend the money = transfer list.
If what I've written is correct the prices can only go up (probably slowly but still up)

Though it is true we don't want the best players to be unaffordable, cause that is sort of silly.. and that's the reason for the new salary changes.

I disagree on that, you should let free everyone to decide which is the best player to buy and to pay. I think that some teams in BBB showed that is not necessary to have people that costs 400k/week to be competitive, these are monster bad buit you should have only to avoid the creation of teams that train these monsters only for the national team; could you tell me why you want to give a value to players trained at lvl 20 in one or two skills, it is necessary that these players will continue to exist giving them a value in the market?

About your point nu.3 it seems to me that 1m from second to first division is today a very small bonus, there are teams that prefer to win the tournament and not promoted...

it doesn't make any sense to run a team at a profit... i mean if you are talking about long term profit. You should be spending every cent you have in the long run. Sure you want your weekly operating income to be net positive, but you are just saving to spend it on something else later. Its not like you are getting some benefit from having money in the bank, you can't cash it out of the game, you can't pass it on to your grandkids.

Conversely it makes no sense to be running your team at a loss.. there is no investors going to bail you out, there is no loan you can take on. This argument that everyone in a top division is going to be forced to lose money to compete is simply fallacious... everyone can't be losing money, its not a good strategy in the long term... a team with a better more financially conservative strategy will beat you. Though it is true we don't want the best players to be unaffordable, cause that is sort of silly.. and that's the reason for the new salary changes.

All that really matters is that
1.Everyone can compete if they plan well on the level they currently are playing at.
2.There are advantageous to being in higher divisions to offset the increased competition people will face.
3.That it is possible for a team once promoted to a higher division to compete once they too are receiving these advantageous. This is one of the reasons behind the arenas changes.

I actually had a hard time to understand what are you reply to and have to search my post. Since iknow what you were replying to:

I wouldn't say that a team which is trying to win BBB (last year finalist) is runnning team for a profit, period. I can't see why he shouldn't have just players with sane and efficient impact : cost ratio - shich is what he is exactly doing and it is obvious that he is doing it well.

The point of my post was that it is simply not true that DIV 1 teams will be forced not to have best players lor to lose money. Pretty much what you said in the second article. Except I think that it may not be a bad thing if championship (Div 1) contenders would even lose some money if they wouldn't have build their team carefully. Simply to make closing the gap a bit easier for newcomers.


3) I don't think you chose the right way really. They just lost one way how to spend their money (or even get some from destroying the extra seats) and have them free to get another edge ovet those who didn't finished building arenas yet. Part of that will be flush out in near future but the wise ones could get long term advantage because they have money now to get the right impact/salary players or the best draftees of their nations.

Better way would be faciliating the life of teams in lower divisions. As a new Div 1 team I can tell (and it is pretty much a consenzus as much as I know) the difference between Div 1 and Div 2 is too big. It may simulate reality but I would say it is nto a desitrable feature. Also the promotion bonuses, cup income and surely starting money for new teams are too rigid and maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea to bound them the new "players organization" salary formulas, market prices or something to reflect current state of economy to ease start for teams who happen to join during inflation times.