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dear all thank you for any feedback,


this is for instance a typical pillory of a popular online game
http://board.gladiatus.com/index.php?form=Warn&s=f1a4...

its just a list...no hard feelings....no arguments, no debates....
if you really think about it there is NO really any reason for the GMs to act like their handling a matter of life or death....its just a list of those who dont play by the BB's rules...
its not like the end of the world.....

i read about rumours of people jeopardising their fame, feelings of revenge, upset such a list might bring to users in all communities....and i think there is a bit of an exaggeration....

this is for instance a typical pillory of a popular online game
http://board.gladiatus.com/index.php?form=Warn&s=f1a4...

And now? How does it change the fairness in the game if you put people on the list that commited major and minor "crimes"?

I mean "insult" are you serious? lol

if i start swearing at you.....some people might consider it ..an insult....:))))

besides i only gave an example of how a pillory could work. Choosing the "right" words is up to the LAs

a pillory works in a "preventative" way....i hope you are aware of a saying..."better prevent than treat...."
people should be discouraged from insulting others, or try to win in a non appropriate manner...


but honestly, why are you so against in making public any penalties...?

Last edited by akage14 at 2/10/2011 2:34:44 PM

Who would read those lists anyway? I think those measures will not work, or can you provide that such measures lower the amount of cheating or other unwanted behaviour.

It seems to me it would be as useful as the death penalty when it comes to preventing major crimes - it doesnt work at all...

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

It seems to me it would be as useful as the death penalty when it comes to preventing major crimes - it doesnt work at all...

whoaooo :)))) this is getting really serious now..... i think we should leave aside serious real life issues and would rather stick to buzzerbeater.

i would read the list (not daily though, i do have other matters to attend..:)))
i would for instance in order to see whether the team that i thought was suspicious for cheating has been banned or fined...

life is complicated as it is,so i dont have the luxury of spending my time patroling and police buzzerbeater,other people are willing to do so...

BUT since the game itself is asking for OUR contribution to prevent people from cheating then i only think its fair for the game to give us some feedback on that same help they asked us for...

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

those pillorys work, because they are important because you normally can not attack people who are temporarely banned ;) So you had to know when he attacks again, or you could attack him - i don't see this senario here or temporarly bans who expire.(ok you could register again after a while, BUT you won't see this at the pillory or the "new" user).

And lot of people who get "finned" don't do anything wrong, they just had the bad luck that someone don't wanted to be in a bid war and have no idea about prices or want to spend his money before he quits etc.

Also i don't know why it get more scary when, you see daily 20 names of banned person you don't know, instead of seeing that there are ~120 banned people last week(yes this number is pretty constant)

I think that if people could physically see in these lists that their cheating reports were actually resulting in fines/bans then more people would be inclined to report cheating because they are confident something would be done about it and in this sense it would catch more cheaters.

Whilst you might think that the death penalty doesn't deter major crimes, I think this situation is different. If there was public humiliation for all real life crimes, I think it would deter people, and this would be similar here.

And if the increase in reports would lead to the same amount of bans/penalites everybody would start ranting about how their complaints are not taken serious.

"public" and internet dont fit together. What would it give to me if I knew user "sweetgurl69" from the US was fined 200k for bad transfers? Or user MOCKBA887 from Russia banned for multiaccounting? I really dont see the benefit from it.

Can someone please summarise the pros and cons of this suggestion.

Leaving personal views and opinions aside, is anyone capable of listing 5 reasons why it should be done and 5 reasons why it shouldnt. Reasons in relation to the benefit of the game for me, you and the other users.

Because if we end up with more pros than cons then its a no-brainer its worth a shot, but if we end up with more problems and negatives then again this is not a good suggestion going forward.

And a couple of comments

1. Its not about making things more scary, in my mind its just a way of making things more transparent and easier for people to follow. As Knecht said, there would be no benefit to him to know that "sweetgurl69" was fined 200k, but if I am the one that reported "sweetgurl69" for illegal transfers, then I have an interest in seeing this comment. And that would encourage me to continue to in the game, without bothering the GM for news (which he is not aloud to give anyway) and wondering whatever happened to my report!!!! So overall there is a benefit for someone.

2. Also I personally would be interested to see more views from GMs and BBs or users that have been in the game for a while, and have more experience in the game, and here their arguments in favor or against the suggestion.

3. And please please, a game is a game, not linked to real life, what we are trying to do is make the game fair, and easier for people to enjoy while getting rid of people that cheat and avoid issues that cause arguments or raise questions in various communities. We can all do without these things and maybe this might be one of the ways forward.

Thank you

Pikaso