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From: 7ton

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Date: 3/25/2011 11:00:25 PM
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Forrester describes OD's importance in the GE:
I think the new GE made changes that most teams haven't made the appropriate adjustements to. I think the problem really is with handling and passing than with OD. Those ratings used to not have a very large effect, and now we have increased the importance of how the handling/passing of a team balances against the defensive pressure being applied. Teams that put out a very stiff outside defense will pressure the guards, and if the guards don't have the ball handling and passing skills to navigate around this pressure more turnovers will result.

In addition, if OD is too low, its going to give guards and easier time finding passing lanes, resulting in more assists etc. And we turned up the size of this tradeoff. So I think teams have focused more on OD, and have defensive options which modify this rating, but really its changes in both handling/passing and outside defense which have altered team dynamics.

I don't know if everyone feels that its too dominant an effect, but our feeling is that handling/passing rates will rise over time and some of what you are talking about will go down over time.

I find it funny how PA still is the least trained skill, ofc second after SB.

OD used to be that important 2-3 seasons ago but not anymore. OD now can't stop inside offense with low offensive flow. Back then playing inside players in SF is a big no-no. There used to be weekly threads complaining inside tactics with shit offensive flow doesn't make inside shots. It's so obvious BB has tuned down the effect of OD and we are back to inside offense dominating the game.

Last edited by 7ton at 3/25/2011 11:06:08 PM

From: 7ton

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Date: 3/26/2011 5:36:42 AM
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The match attitude has unbalanced the game too much. I don't think you can draw useful conclusions from that game.

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178233.31 in reply to 178233.29
Date: 3/27/2011 2:28:48 AM
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Hm, I woldn't put that exactly like you did...

Let's say I face a guy with OD 15 and I have a PG like this:

JS: 12 JR: 10
OD: 14 HA: 16
DR: 16 PA: 15
IS: 8

Other skills are not necessary for this topic.

If I play Look inside with this guard, I think opponent's player's OD won't stop him much. But if I play Motion with the same guy, he will get destroyed by OD 15.

That's what I meant.

From: HAHA

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Date: 12/17/2016 9:47:46 PM
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I have a French PG, whose OD 18 defended the opponents' PG pretty well.

(92167583), opponent's PG 1/14