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i think its realy simple with the PR guys..he increase your attendance depending on your arena and how much poeple wanna see your team..for example PR 1 0% and PR 10 maybe 10% or 15%..if your arena and fan base are big enough every 1% more can bring your team extra cash..useless to say that is make no sense to hire a PR 10 with normal attendance is around 3000..

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Last edited by WillFreeman at 07/16/2008 18:00:53

i think we ought to make a study on this base on the ones who just hire and see results.

i mean i get the idea that no matter how good a PR guy is , if the team sucks even with 300% effort your not going to get as much results as you are on a winning team also you need to know your market or else youll end up like seattle or milwaukee.

what im thinking is surely this would benefit more of higher divisions! but to even say the stakes are high even when you base it on performance. i really dont get the idea that a level 10 guy who is an expert in that field would get such results.

predictability is something of anticipation and with a little math and probability could already gives us an idea of what things to come.

i agree with you even playing agianst a power house team but if donaghy was officiating it and you pay him 500k surely the game will be different.

but even with predictability i do believe in adjusting and exploiting weaknesses.
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you said " it just should not be so easy that anyone can clearly see if the PR man they want will win back the money they spend (and more) or not."

and

"since I realy don't like the idea of me being able to calculate who will win next game for sure. I want to have a clue of who has the best chances, but this doesn't mean he will win..."

to me this are 2 things

getting results from a man who works in an environment he is in control of and not in control of.

what can he ask more, my team is of the top, winning history, i may not have the best individual players but as a team they rock!, big arena! what does he need more and im in the highest division class

in basketball playing the game needs to assess the skill of the opponent, how well you are prepared, your players skill and how the game will go such as fouls , injurt etc.

im talking about one man's work which he has control of his environment! that is all! how much calculation needed to see one man fruit of labor.

oh oh as i said im not hoping a sudden increase but a gradual thing, but all i see now is the work of my guy seems to struggle with outcomes needed to be seen.

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there are times just to have good showing, some nba teams even tends to give away tickets especially against ahh bad teams.

while the PR guy device ways of making like package promo, like buy 4 games tickets for how much. yes he will call first the season ticket holders but i do believe a lot of these people already bought em before the season started.

he has to work on getting more people to come to games, or probably run publicity thing to entice and make the city feel good abotu the team and get more support!



Last edited by Shoei at 07/16/2008 21:42:35

come on guys! arent we a lot here to get some input!

can i hear from those who did said they are getting 6 digits of revenue from merchandise! im really curious as to how you do it

or those who get big attendance?

It might be only me, but I have a very hard time understanding what you are trying to say here:

what im thinking is surely this would benefit more of higher divisions! but to even say the stakes are high even when you base it on performance. i really dont get the idea that a level 10 guy who is an expert in that field would get such results.

Could you please try to clarify this?

I think that the influence of a PR guy should be unstable and the attendeance should depend on lot more things, somehow like it is now

good or a bad PR guy - they should be worth both (one or other) in some situation

so with this to my understanding

there is a factor of a good and bad hire?

meaning someone was manage to get even chosen by our bloody staff hiring list wherein only one is recommended every week. how poor is our staff choosing.

i think something is really wrong with this staff hiring thing, i hope it changes next season.

because even bad apples get to be listed wherein in fact he cant do anyt any work at all.

what i meant here is

hiring great ( level 9 or 10 ) PR guys would surely benefit those teams that has high competition or level of game play which im sure division 1 and 2.1 are.

but even with this that having the highest level of games, the top of all division, the PR level 10 guy is still having hard time. base on my performance when i havent hire a level 10 guy, my merchandise sales is consistent at 35k a week even with a few losses but when i hire him the highest i saw is 40k but as the weeks goes by it never surpass that and the worst part it would even drop.

even at the highest competition, surely like the nba you dont need to ask around that much about it, but you know since its marketing, publicity etc already covers a lot.

add this to your teams performance meaning im not a losing team, i have winning history, im on top if i fall to 2nd place does that hurt my attendance so much even with a few losses that the PR guy cant seem to get his work going?

how much support does he needs just to see results.

i just stated the merchanside sales is one thing but my attendance seems to really take a beating im shock to see like 7k or 8k attendance lost



Last edited by Shoei at 07/19/2008 04:57:16

new staff system will be here soon

..while I'm looking forward if will not be against even some random I see here now, because I think is normal that you cannot hire anyone for a while and then you have a luck for a right person finally..

we will see

i think the changes will be about how we are to choose or hire our staff

but how our staff work is another. . . .

I don't see logic between how staff work (affect) and how will be hired in the future

eh

Last edited by Iordanou at 07/19/2008 05:42:48