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It does seem so if i read most of the threads.
I do agree that daytrading has an effect on the TL. It certainly has an impact, how severe is the question though.

It does seem unfair to the occasional players who just log in once or twice a day. Can't punish them for not being THAT into the game compared to certain daytraders.

Currently i don't really have a clear opinion on daytrading.

Isn't "daytrading" just short term training? Is this in some way wrong?

It's not like there are metrics to measure how close a player is to popping. You buy a player in BB and you've little to no idea how many weeks it will take to pop a particular skill. Plus, the more you train the slower training goes.

I think many people are confusing the situation when recently it's been more inflation than any short term market training. I've sold most my players at higher prices than what i bought them for, without any training, thanks to inflation. Though I didn't really make out cuase i needed to buy a player to replace them which took up any gains I might have realized.

Let the market do what it does, regulate prices. If someone wants to attempt and put the work into short term training profits its up to them.

Edited by brianjames (12/12/2007 6:26:38 PM CET)

Last edited by brian at 12/12/2007 6:26:38 PM

No, it's also up to me if I've to compete with them in a bid, that's the point.
Skill trading in my opinion is ok and just to be clear, I'm not talking about people that makes 10 transfers per week, I'm talking about people that can buy and sell more than 5 players per day everyday.

Cold you explain me in which way they are keeping in balance the market?
I think exactly the opposite O_o"

I've not seen a team that's made that many transfers, so that's news to me at least. That does seem annoying and really wouldn't be the ideal plan for becoming successful, but maybe the agent's commission will discourage this.

edit - though annoying, there's nothing wrong with this tactic, as they are just finding undervalued players.

Edited by brianjames (12/12/2007 6:33:27 PM CET)

Last edited by brian at 12/12/2007 6:33:27 PM

That's the difference: you are talking about skill training, where a manager buys a player and trains them, risking a period of several weeks passing (and hence wages to be paid) prior to relisting. In the process, the player is improved.

Daytrading is a different matter, where a manager buys a player cheaply and then relists them at a hugely inflated price. I've seen players on the TL marked up from $100,000 to $1,000,000 by their new daytrading owner. No value is added to the player.

I'm hoping the new transfer sales tax will go a long way to restricting daytrading. I started a thread in the Suggestions forum entitled "Initial Contracts" where I discuss one of the concepts suggested by other people above, along with my objections to daytrading.

if your team and finances havent evolved for you to compete successfully with other teams then you arent ready to buy the players on your wishlist.

that being so i imagine your training will be compensating for this with your squad increasing in value.

i think that inflation has pushed up prices in the past few weeks but i fear that if as i hope many teams are training efficiently av/resp stats will soon be replaced with resp/strong and will probably sell for similar amounts.

18yo are now 18.5 which is a big difference.

the transfer market is still in its infancy with i guess many spikes (close to cut off to playoffs) and troughs (after cut off!) that will occur every season...

lower your expectations or sacrifice existing players to build up a working capital to copy the day traders and try and outperform this way...

if you are not prepared to do this live with your current decisions and leave others to live with theirs

There are a bunch of reasons to stop or at least limit day trading. Here are the most imoprtant according to me:

* It makes no sense that players sign contracts if they have a high risk to be traded the day after (and if you introduce something that does not make sense you should have a really good motivation for it and there actually is none)

* A skillfull coach can never ever outplay a skillfull day trader in the long run. Thus it creates an unbalance where economic skills are much more important than tactical skills and after all this is a bball game (or at least marketed as sush)

* Even though trading requires some skill the most important factor for succesful trading is time. People with a lot of time to spend on the transfer market can get major benefits. This goes against the basic idea of BB (or at least what is marketed as a basic idea) of not needing to login too much while still being able to be succesful (if you are good enough)