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381.266 in reply to 381.1
Date: 1/11/2008 12:01:13 PM
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Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 4-5 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks

I've been training RB since 30 November (with one week off for stamina). Based on my results, the RB training is accurate for players over 20. It is much faster (about 1-2 weeks) for players 20 and younger.

I have been training the same 4 guys the entire time, and my results are as follows:

19yo:
11/30 respectable RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 strong RB
1/3 proficient RB

20yo:
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/20 respectable RB
1/3 strong RB, respectable IS
1/10 proficient RB

23yo:
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 respectable RB
1/10 strong RB

24yo:
12/7 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
1/3 respectable RB


Training (with trainer level in parenthesis)
11/30 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/7 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/14 Team Stamina (9)
12/20 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/27 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/3 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/10 Rebounding C/PF (8)

After 6 weeks of Rebounding, I've experienced only one pop to either Inside Shot or Inside Defense. This suggests that the increase of training speed effects only primary skills, not secondary skills. Your previous research suggested that when training RB, the time expected to pop in IS or ID was ~7-8 weeks. I plan to continue in RB for two more weeks, and will post any results here (this will likely carry over into next season, as I'm rather doubtful of making the finals).

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From: Ragans

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381.267 in reply to 381.265
Date: 1/11/2008 1:45:19 PM
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Confirm that training One on One SF/PF had pops in IS

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Date: 1/11/2008 1:47:13 PM
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I had to notice the same problem with the secondary skills. After Training 7 weeks Rebounding, only 50% of my guys had a skillup in ID or IS. And what was especially frustraiting, was the fact that the old ones were the ones who had a skillup :-(.

-> trainingspeed is higher than 4-5 weeks for secondaries.

Unfortunately i changed to IS, so i can't offer the correct timespan for more than one skillup!

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Date: 1/11/2008 4:52:49 PM
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Sorry but the training time for a pop is not related also to the height of the player? At the moment I don't have anything to study this aspect of the training cause I've changed often the skill trained. Do u know something more about it?

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Date: 1/11/2008 5:19:13 PM
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Someon can confirm me that Passing train HN too ?


Absolutely. I trained Passing (PG) for the first time this week and had pops in Passing, Driving, and Handling.

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Date: 1/12/2008 3:22:02 AM
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Another point I falied to mention was that I was training IS for ~3-4 weeks before switching to RB. Of the 3 players I've been training in RB that haven't popped in IS, two of them have an extra week of IS training since their last skill increase.

Next week (still training RB C/PF), I'm expecting pops in ID for nearly all of my of my trainees, and I also expect 2 of them to pop in IS. I only expect one pop in RB ;)

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From: Riko
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Date: 1/13/2008 10:52:21 AM
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PG/SG:
Trains HN @ 2-3 weeks
Trains DV @ 3-4 weeks
Trains OD @ 4-5 weeks

I m training handling for 6 weeks and one of my PG pops from awful to average. that is average of 2.5 weeks and that is ok. But something else is bothering me. No one else ,including this player, didn t popup in any other skill. Is this normal or am i doing something wrong? Coach is level 9.Players are 18-19 year. They all play between 50 and 80 min. per week.

From: GrFlur

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Date: 1/13/2008 12:56:23 PM
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maybe the height of the players you are training?

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From: Riko

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Date: 1/13/2008 1:26:32 PM
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seriously? 3PG-183 cm SG-201cm SF-198 cm

From: GrFlur

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Date: 1/13/2008 2:41:45 PM
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recently i tried to perform an height average for each position and there's an aproximation

PG -190
SG 180-195
SF 190-202
PF 200-210
C 205+

just rereading the rules i guess this but i've got not enought data up to now to asure this, only mi opiniĆ³n

when the training speed will be finaly set this will be more exactly up to now only gueses...

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