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sure. but the ones who agree to these changes do not post in the thread !!1

Could be. Or not. No real way to know unless a survey is sent out, and you could still make a point about how people who agree with the changes didn't answer the survey.

Deducing there is a great number of people in favor of the changes is impossible. It's pure speculation that, because you agree and haven't posted before, that there is a big number of well-informed people (assuming that you are well informed and have read this whole thread) that agree with the changes and haven't posted.

I dont think it was good that BBs announced them so late, but charles explained why. charles also explained why they were necessary and he was absolutely right about it. So I believe this was not only a good move but also a necessary move by the BBs!!!

Again: few people have actually said there shouldn't be changes. What I and other people don't agree with is with these specific changes, and I feel better changes (judging them by effectiveness in reducing inflation and granting possibilities for all teams to keep growing) were suggested here; whereas the current changes won't grant the second part (possibilities for all teams to keep growing). Quite a few teams will have to do major cuts, and BB staff idea, I'm pretty sure, wasn't cuting flesh, but cuting excess.

Some teams will have to sell players in order to keep alive (cuting flesh); and the teams that motivated the change with their excessive gaining will lose some of their excess, but won't really have to make major changes, just won't be able to buy as much as they did.

The news item said Torooo made 8.2M this season. Take 40% from that and he'll still be fine. And what about the teams that made 1M, 2M? and there are quite a lot of D1 teams that did even less (in liquid).

That's the point that's being criticized. BB's thought only about the top dogs when implementing these changes. They thought about taking part of their receipts away, which is fine, but they didn't really think about what would happen with gate-dependent teams.

Last edited by LA-André at 8/4/2008 3:29:53 AM

Could be. Or not. No real way to know unless a survey is sent out, and you could still make a point about how people who agree with the changes didn't answer the survey.

But you could complain about it without the journey and dramtized Numbers? There was alot more then 5 agrrees to it, and in the 260 post there are also a lto 0f people who post more then once(but only the against was counted double) or about the youth national Team.

The most angry post was about the speed the BB implemented the change not against the "how" and so on ... And i like the way they solve it, and i started in div II and promote after one or two month in div one, and i could say my fans are incressing pretty fast in comparison to the guys who started in div IV, so i would have enarly the same money like then so i wo't see why they should go for bankrupcy because of those changes ...

And new teams even got cheapers salaries.

But you could complain about it without the journey and dramtized Numbers?

Sure. Will look into this in the future.

I should say though that the intention wasn't to be scientifical about it or anything. It was to stress that this is a big controversy.

Sure. Will look into this in the future.

I should say though that the intention wasn't to be scientifical about it or anything. It was to stress that this is a big controversy.

If it really was a big contovercy you would not need to exaggerate to proove it. ;) For big controvercys you should look at things like daytrading and deflation controvercies in Hattrick.

Anyway, I think it is more productive to try to focus on how a longterm solution would look like. I am sure that everyone, including the BBs, dont think that a panic solution as the one they had to introduce now is good. The current solution offers a good time out in which the community can be constructive and find better solutions for the future.

Last edited by chespirito at 8/4/2008 5:37:09 AM

I have said over a million times now its stupid to exageratte...

Hahaha, you are right!

Hahaha, you are right! :D

That may be a first for me on these forums!!

Never played HT, but I'm pretty sure there's more people over there, right?

In BB terms, which is the game we are playing here, it is big.

As to having to think about solutions, that's fine, and I know it was a panic change that was made. But panic or not-panic, there were better alternatives and the problems in this one were repeatedly pointed out already. That's all I'm saying.

Anyway, I think it is more productive to try to focus on how a longterm solution would look like. I am sure that everyone, including the BBs, dont think that a panic solution as the one they had to introduce now is good. The current solution offers a good time out in which the community can be constructive and find better solutions for the future.

This is just a temporary system, because the top leagues earns that much money and don't ahve the possibility to waste it in salaries ;) So we will have 2-3 Seasons a handicap like that nowadays, and after it it will hopefully run normal.

The chosen solution on the other hand creates a controvercy, but even if we are a few that are upset with it you must admit that it is still a pretty calm and balanced reaction we are seeing in the forum.

The same can be said for the alternative solution. I don't see too many people protesting the suggestion in this thread, therefore it shouldn't be creating a controversy at all if implemented.

I know that it is temporary, but I actually think it will take more than 2-3 seasons, therefore it would not hurt to have a better system in place in the end of this period.