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151901.27 in reply to 151901.18
Date: 8/12/2010 10:27:57 AM
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Lousy idea in real life? F.e. how many players played in soccer WC for different country than they were borned?
How many american players in basketball play for different NT?
Maybe it looks like loose idea, but it's quite common.


I agreed that's common, its jut a bad idea. What happens when the next world cup is made up of 24 teams of naturalized Brazilian soccer players. Wow...go my country! Or rather, go my Brazilians!



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151901.28 in reply to 151901.23
Date: 8/12/2010 10:57:56 AM
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Do you think that teams should have to pay a fee if they want to convert their player?

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151901.29 in reply to 151901.17
Date: 8/12/2010 11:54:19 AM
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It's not only about NT, but also about merchandise. Domestic players give much more for merchandise than foreigners. If player after 5 seasons in my team can have second nationality he can bring me additional income of merchandise even if he is playing for NT of his first nationality.
In general I like this idea.


I agree - bottom line is the change if implemented successfully would help create more parity at National Team level, it would maybe encourage clubs to buy and keep and phase out trading or consistently upgrading...

Remember the larger nations will always be able to do what the smaller ones can. (ie. Buy up foreign players etc) BUT the difference is they can only allocate the same number of NT roster spots.

Where this would help smaller nations is say I (Japanese team) buy a semi-decent US Trainee...the US NT managers would have to call him and play him at least once to prevent him from ever playing on the Japan team and with many other US trainees chances are if i train him well (but not that well :D) I can keep for 5 seasons, convert and then maybe he'll play for Japan or at least he'll have dual nationality (so I get rewarded with some more merch for the trade off of not trading him)

A US team buys a Japanese (or other smaller nation) trainee... chances are much higher that he will feature if trained reasonably well for the Japan NT so this would mean he could never be converted to a US NT player although again the US team has the benefit that in 5 seasons he too could be considered US by his inherited nationality for merchandise benefits.


Was my post too long to read?!
The biggest countries will always be the biggest - you honestly dont need to worry about the smaller nations.. sure we might improve but 50 managers will never be able to build a NT to defeat 5,000 and if they do then the 5,000 should seriously question their strategy!

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151901.30 in reply to 151901.28
Date: 8/12/2010 11:55:23 AM
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Not necessary.

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151901.31 in reply to 151901.30
Date: 8/12/2010 5:31:13 PM
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I don't like the idea, in case of National Teams.

National Team Staff of a country now puts effort in getting those young talents trained. If you allow such an idea in to the game, that effort can be for nothing. To mention at least one point against it.

I do however agree with MOD-Crazyeye that you could do something for the merchandising, if you wanted to. But I don't think that such an option will be an improvement for the game, if you want the merchandising money, buy and train players from your own country.

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Date: 8/12/2010 7:23:33 PM
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I do however agree with MOD-Crazyeye that you could do something for the merchandising, if you wanted to. But I don't think that such an option will be an improvement for the game, if you want the merchandising money, buy and train players from your own country.


I agree...that's what I've done, but not really for merchandising reasons.

From: JON

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151901.33 in reply to 151901.2
Date: 8/14/2010 8:39:17 PM
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LOL

i agree..

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151901.34 in reply to 151901.30
Date: 8/15/2010 5:24:35 AM
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If this idea is restricted purely to affecting merchandising, I think it is good. I think that after a player has been three seasons at a club he should be considered as a 'national' in terms of merchandising calculations. After seven seasons, he could even be considered to be a 'club legend' and go onto an even higher rate.

NT wise, I think dual-nationality sucks IRL and is not a good idea.

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151901.35 in reply to 151901.34
Date: 8/15/2010 7:50:01 AM
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Personally I dont see better merchandising calculation for foreign players as a so good idea. It is because there would be no point in training drafted players and Im truly happy for the way that you can be rewarded for this.

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151901.36 in reply to 151901.35
Date: 8/15/2010 9:25:31 AM
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Drafted and domestic players don't have the same effect for merchandise. For the drafted player of same quality is effect higher than for domestic not drafted player.

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151901.37 in reply to 151901.36
Date: 8/15/2010 11:36:22 AM
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That was the point, ok. Then I like it only if that player hit national team.

It is to keep life harder for high-league teams which just buy foreign players and doesnt try to reach other perspective.

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