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From: Pewu

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Date: 5/23/2012 1:22:13 PM
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Hey man,
I answered different way than you think and I've been insulted. That's not working like that.

If 50k users today and 25k users quit tomorrow, and the players they owned went FA...waht happens to the market hmmm????

IF 50k users today and 100k tomorrow, the nmaybe we need FA to balance it out.

You don't understand this issue, you aren't even close. Don7t talk to me like you have something figured out, you are just trolling. Read,study, whatever. Try to refrain from making inane irrelevant comments.



I told what will happen, if other factors remain unchanged (it's called ceteris paribus). Prices will go up in short period and after that they will drop slightly (players on transfer list will be adjusted to new total users number). Supply-demand relation works on every market, where the main factor is price.

You said "average teams owned players whose skillups (looking at TSP and training speeds) were 2 to 3 times what would EVER be possible for one team to train". That's the truth for best teams in a country. But you can't say it's general. You have just checked one league for 2 seasons. Isn't it too short survey, is it?:) Of course they can buy for themselves players, because they are rich in comparison to Div3-5 teams which also train players. As you see top teams don't need to train, however most of them base on 1-2 perfect players on their roster, what makes them unbeaten for few seasons in some leagues.

Let's count. We can say that 1 team can train up to 3 players per 5 seasons (18-23). It makes 12 players since 1st season for one team. How much players should have proper roster to care about gameshape? I would say it's 12! After short counting we can say there are more and more well-trained players. Of course one team trained nobody since his rookie season, another one train 1on1 making 6 players better every day.


From: GM-hrudey

To: Pewu
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217966.29 in reply to 217966.25
Date: 5/23/2012 5:52:45 PM
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System only put players on market, but doesn't bid them. We do that. So we create price.


If the system triples the number of players available within a set of criteria, does it not follow that there will be less competition for those players as managers can bow out sooner and move to the next one? The number of people who are looking to buy players is not going to fluctuate wildly based on the number of players available; if you need players, you need players and if you don't, you don't. FA injects additional supply, regardless of demand.

From: WFUnDina

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Date: 5/23/2012 8:13:02 PM
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Free Agents are necessary for large nation teams in the lower divisions. This happens to also be were the majority of players are.

Your argument always comes across as "the rich need to keep getting more rich and the middle and lower class have no chance of moving up to take your spot."

Until every league earns the same amount of gate receipts, merchandise, tv contracts. None of the upper league teams have any right to complain about the market.


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Date: 5/23/2012 8:18:15 PM
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Until every league earns the same amount of gate receipts, merchandise, tv contracts. None of the upper league teams have any right to complain about the market.




Would you pay the same amount of money to watch WNBA than to watch a Durant/James game?

That's what I thought.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/24/2012 3:29:24 AM
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It is the opposite of what you are saying. FA as it is is allowing top league/vet teams MORE dominance, allowing the rich to get richer. Its still relatively hard to for the bottom division teams to crack into the next level, they still pay a lot for players at their level.


did we get richer since the price is so low since they deflate the worth of our player(yes it should affect nearly our complete roster), or are it so uncompetive since the price is still so high and the solution is to increase the value of our roster in eleminating those fA which makes it "easier" to catch up since you need now much more money(no idea why this is easier or more competive) ;)

Or is the price so deflated, that you can easily get to the level, which you say before.

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 5/24/2012 3:53:25 AM
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my saved money are the "worthless" roster, and we don't earn that much money* in micronation this might be different.

So tanking is the problem there.

* when we don't loose it, the average income is 18k in my league.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/24/2012 3:54:04 AM

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