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So you're willing to cap your league earnings and the salary of your team for the same reason?

What problem do you have with earings? You have less earings but it is easier for you to win...so it is easier for you to be on the top and get the highest earings.

You have a problem only because you decided to TIE the league playoff semifinal and lost last season. Besides you have a problem only with the Final game of B3 and yet you (and your other Polish friend) want to remove Enthusiasm for the entire competition. Does it sound reasonable and proportionate to you?

Of course, I see after my final that enthusiasm problem exist in B3...but I'm writing not because of me. I rebuilt my team so I probably won't play fast in B3 .

If this would stop the never ending crying coming from Poland and Poland only, I beg you BBs, please consider it.

I think he has a valid point. Defining it as crying is a particularly weak kind of argument. And the suggestion in the other thread comes from Sweden. I'm not sure when Sweden became part of Poland.

Manon's thread is about "making B3 fair", not specifically Enthusiasm. It's only the 2 of them and the groupies from their country who are obsessed with Enthusiasm.

Marin has already said what he thinks about it, erasing differences between different nations is impossible and the problem clearly is not enthusiasm, but the fact that a finalist in B3 can't win his own league playoff semifinal (losing enthusiasm is the consequence).

Next thing you know there will be people crusading to erase GS differences in B3 (why not?), cap the playable salary you can put on the floor (why not?) or erase Enthusiasm from the game altogether (why not?).

Last edited by GM-Perpete at 1/19/2015 1:28:39 PM

Again, I don't see trying to make a point about something has to be called a crusade.

Its certainly unfair that the different lengths of cup competitions give some countries an advantage in the B3. Poland among them. I'd actually say equalising enthusiasm benefits smaller countries much more than it would Poland. That he noticed the unfairness because it affected him doesn't mean he's wrong.

i agree with Lemonshine in every sentence and all those whining reminds me on spoil child...
The fact is that, in spite of unequal format of competition, only teams from "big" countries won trophy.
I am wondering how they managed to do that, due to that hendikep with enth?
I mean, China won it 5 times, Canada 4, Spain 2 times, Poland,Czech rep,Serbia,Turkie, Slovaki,Italy and others won it once.
Hows that issue become problem now, or at the time when Kozik lost a final?How is possible that no one spoke about it before that?
coincidence or?

it becomes silly when it's only 2 users (Kozlik and Darkonza plus the occasional Polish groupie) who are complaining on B3 season forums and effectively take away credit from the winner. I made a point not to post about this unless they decided to go all out again on this (and ignored several posts). I think it's disrespectful and their proposal (and Manon's) to erase Enth from B3 goes against the complexity of the game and what BB is. Their persistence and the fact that they repeatedly rejected the notion they do have an advantage is clearly a vested interest and an unnatural reaction, hence the definition 'crusade' and 'crying'. I repeat it once again for everyone's benefit: they don't have a problem with Enthusiasm per se, they have a problem only for the B3 final because a finalist might lose in their nation's playoffs.

Honestly I think that if you risk it and TIE in the playoffs and lose (like Kozlik) then it your problem and your problem alone for being greedy. As it stands to win the B3 it helps to get in the finals in your own league. So what's so difficult to understand? If you throw away league games and playoff games you do so at your own risk: it's your choice.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/17/2015 8:31:04 PM

So what's so difficult to understand?

Your inability to discuss something rationally is a huge problem. What don't I understand? Do I assume you don't understand me because I disagree with you? If you can't discuss something without attempting to appear superior to all around you, you really shouldn't bother.

Well Gully, if you had written any reasoned argument in the last few posts instead of going personal, as you do fairly often, we could maybe debate that.

For the 3rd time: Marin has said what he thinks, not even me or Wolph have ever been so stubborn after the BBs have given their definitive view on a topic (see autobid for reference). Saving B3 teams who disregard their league and favouring larger nations does not seem to be a priority unless I misread the post from Marin.

Can we leave this thread for the congratulations to both Buffalo and Stajan for their deserved achievement?

The fact is that, in spite of unequal format of competition, only teams from "big" countries won trophy.
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I mean, China won it 5 times, Canada 4, Spain 2 times, Poland,Czech rep,Serbia,Turkie, Slovaki,Italy and others won it once.

Why do you leave out Moldova and Iran when you mention old B3 winners? Iran has 3 wins and Moldova 1. And i wouldn't say those are big countries.

I wouldnt say that Iran is small country as well, considering number of user and strength of their NT.
Also, keep in mind that they got 2 different teams who won B3.
So, basicly we came down to 1 name from almoast of 25 B3 seasons.
If we say once in 25 seasons, is common thing or not?
Also, as Moldavian team won trophy in season 20, why no one pointed that problem in that time?
I am really confused about all those drama when we got both finalist from "big" countris, as long with teams from semi finalists.
Furthermore all teams from 1/4 final are from "big" countries...so, you need to manage ent as much as they need, so i, honeslty, dont see where is that problem?

Last edited by LA-Saur0n at 1/18/2015 11:13:38 AM