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From: zyler

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Date: 10/25/2011 5:07:47 AM
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not aimed at you , but glad another manager i respect sees the value of experience :)


From: Koperboy

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Thank you for your words! I think experience matters the most in 4th quarter, when a player with high experience will choose the correct move most of the time (shoot/drive/pass/foul) while an inexperienced one will struggle more often than not.

From: zyler

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199037.30 in reply to 199037.29
Date: 10/25/2011 5:46:41 AM
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as do i :)

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199037.31 in reply to 199037.20
Date: 10/25/2011 8:32:21 AM
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I doubt the hidden team chemistry factor too.
It would be fair to have it though.

One of the things that I would really like is a "nationality chemistry" factor.
I am ok with the rule that Fans prefer players of their own country, but I also think that it would be fair to give a plus to teams whose core is made of players from the same country (even if different from the home country).

For example even if my team is in Italy, I think that having 3-4 Greeks in the team should be a plus, rather than 1 Greek 1 Spaniard 1 Chinese etc.

Last edited by Stavrogin at 10/25/2011 8:32:56 AM

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199037.32 in reply to 199037.29
Date: 10/25/2011 8:59:47 AM
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Perhaps we should start a new thread about the value of experience...

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199037.33 in reply to 199037.32
Date: 10/25/2011 9:01:57 AM
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Maybe, though effect of experience is very hard to measure and we would have a lot of very different opinions (which is of course a good thing). But I don't think anyone can state that experience doesn't have any effect - if not, why this stat woud exist?

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199037.34 in reply to 199037.27
Date: 10/25/2011 9:02:05 AM
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Personally, I don't think experience makes any difference between two players with the same skills.


And this is coming from a NT coach? Are you sure you are qualified for the job??



Yeah, that's coming from a NT coach. And if you don't have actual data to prove the otherwise, please don't be so ordinary to jump into stupid conclusions. Instead, you should probably ask yourself if what you think you know is actually right, or you might probably think it wrong. In simple words, what you think is right, might be wrong. Again, I use the "if, might, probably" because I have the decency to respect others opinion.


What actually is proven to work in the 4th quarter, is Stamina. You might want to learn that to improve your team ;)

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199037.35 in reply to 199037.34
Date: 10/25/2011 9:15:27 AM
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Then please tell me why does the skill "experience" even exist?

Btw, let's check what Game Manual says...

The central part of the game engine is how the half court offense/defense works. The general idea is that a team gets a series of opportunities to score. What kind, and what the quality of those opportunities are is a function of the offense they are running, the matchups between the offensive players and their defenders. A player must decide whether the opportunity presented is good enough to take a shot… this of course changes as a function of amongst other things… the shot clock, the players experience, the score of the game, the history of the quality of shots the team has seen recently, the offense the team is running, and whether that rookie shooting guard of yours thinks he knows better than the coach does how good he is at making jump shots.


Maybe an application for a NT manager should require reading the Game Manual first.

Sorry if I came onto you a bit harshly; I don't have a problem you didn't know experience affects a player's performance. I have a problem with you firmly believing it doesn't AND you are a NT manager. It just doesn't add up.

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199037.36 in reply to 199037.34
Date: 10/25/2011 9:19:54 AM
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Don't agree. My teams always had great stamina. When I started, I had unexperienced players and always lost closed matchs, even lost a game in 2 overtimes where my top scorer failed with the last shot having (guess what) low experience. Now, I have a much more experienced team and I see a much higher FG on 4th quarters, especially in close matchs.

I don't think he wanted to attack you, perhaps his choice of words wasn't the best, but you wrote the first post I saw where someone neglected the importance of experience. If you think so, fine. It's an opinion, and all are valuables.

Please don't start a discussion.

What I'd like to know is what you've seen and why you think that experience doesn't matter.

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199037.37 in reply to 199037.35
Date: 10/25/2011 9:24:50 AM
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My question exactly. I've never seen anything definite about how to affect it and how it is applied.

It leaves me to make assumptions about what an experienced player would bring to a team, and what an experienced NBA player does that others don't. That often doesn't translate to BB and those assumptions always get me in trouble. Experience should matter because it is in the game here, but how does it work?

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199037.38 in reply to 199037.37
Date: 10/25/2011 9:28:49 AM
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Experience? Heeeeere we go:

(112433.2)

Experience helps in a number of ways, but the important really depends upon the details of the game and of the rest of your team. Our model for a halfcourt set consists of a series of potential shots, with your players making the decision whether to take the shot or wait for a better one. A more experienced player both does a better job of recognizing whether something is a good shot and also is more likely to make the "right" decision, while a rookie might take a poor shot either out of impatience or because he doesn't know any better.

Experience also becomes important towards the end of a close game; in the last few minutes or overtime, players who have been there before tend to be at their best while rookies can't always handle the pressure.

Whether these effects are important is really a matter of opinion; as you know, we'll mention the rough effects but we don't release the underlying formulas.

We have both said a lot of things that you are going to regret.
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