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Is this really a thread to give out suggestion that will help the game grow above 50k or a new thread for you to yet again go against everything everyone says and then just pointing to another suggestion you made?
It sure seems to be about the second part. And if so this thread probably can be closed as we seen it all before.
If you actually start a thread like this you better be open minded to what others have to say and not just throw it away like garbage.

You know that the BBs will look at the content is written (if they actually looking at this forum), and all the tryouts to pull suggestion that some users don't like it, and those users are a very small group, will just be ignored.

No one is blocking you for suggesting relevant alternatives about the topic - what causes this game not to grow, and what could be done.
And please don't add something like - changing the name of the game, using a button that creates a buzzer, and other non-relevant suggestions.

Not supprisingly - for improving the game and growing its community there is needed a drastic change on it.

What will happen in case of a salary-cap?
The richer teams will have less money to invest. They may do it more wisely, but that could have done also prior of the cap, so on any case, it means their team would be worse, and the league they are playing at will be more competiive.
This is the same idea that had been used when David Stern added this rule to the NBA on his first season as the commisioner.
No one could argue about his success with that (as well as other sport that posses this rule).
More competitiveness, less users will leave the game due to it.

Why does a luxury-cap is needed?
A luxury-cap assist by giving some small margin for the richer teams to use their extra money for being better while strengthening the other teams while doing so (by the tax they are paying them).
In BB it will assist by allowing those teams to compete a little better in the B3.
The same idea that the NBA had just added this summer is the right way to do it - the tax should be incremental.
This will make the BB-managing desicions more interesting and different then they are currently are.
More interest in the game, less users to leave due to it.

Why all BB-nations needs to have a similar size?
It is less meaningfull at the BB-nation level, but a small BB-nation makes it easier for a team there to pile money and then win a B3 title (as we saw on the last seasons).
A top team that has no competition "in house" would welcome a real competition in the B3 tournament.
How can it be done?
The NBA unites teams from different part in the USA (which is basically a continent size).
Tournament on other Internet-games are divided with no relation to the actual nation a user is from.
So (one) of the solution is to unite and break the BB-nation upon size and not upon real-nation.

There is a single world they are all part of - the BB world.
The BB world does not need to look like the real-world.

So (one) of the solution is to unite and break the BB-nation upon size and not upon real-nation.

There is a single world they are all part of - the BB world.
The BB world does not need to look like the real-world.

I believe that doing something like this would be the death knell of the game.

What will happen in case of a salary-cap?
The richer teams will have less money to invest. They may do it more wisely, but that could have done also prior of the cap, so on any case, it means their team would be worse, and the league they are playing at will be more competiive.
This is the same idea that had been used when David Stern added this rule to the NBA on his first season as the commisioner.
No one could argue about his success with that (as well as other sport that posses this rule).
More competitiveness, less users will leave the game due to it.

it is not always more wisely to spend on fewer salary, when you make a bigger initial investment(+ a bigger decline in player value). With a salary cap it would be the way to go, so those salary optimated player get more expensiv and people who buy championship today will also do it in the future. So the same competiveness, a big rumble in the market which will p*** off users. And big problems with demotions and promotions who cause problems, and that lead usually to less users.

The problem with the less competivness as you call it is also a artefact from the past, and is solving itself atm.

Also i doubt, that a online game, with very limited possibilities of interaction will have a future with your weird merging of nations. Even if i overall agree, that merging some nations together will help a lot, but this should be done with looking at languages, tip off times etc. that you could interact with your league mates and your "BB-nation".

I don't like the thread that much, since it brings nothing new and just makes it necessary to explain stuff the X time.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 4/11/2012 3:46:37 AM

What will happen in case of a salary-cap?

Richer teams will get richer.

Not in case they will also pay for what they are not using...

In any case, good for them!!!
But what good will that do for the league?!?! They cannot spend that money due to that cap!!!

This is why you are stuck in Division 3, not some wall.

I'm not stuck there.
This is my third season there, and on my second I've finished at the semifinals (to a much OLDER team, and I was second in the all league).

admit your own inability to win is because the other users in the game are better at managing their team than you.

So why are you so afraid from a real competition where all users on a league will have the same money to invest?
Then only the BB-managing abilities will matter, and not when one joined a game.

Basically, you have not a single point here, but just trying to throw mud to any direction, and even there you don't know what you are writing...
Does this mud will assist you proving your point for the BBs (the only one who decides here. GMs, Mods, and LAs has no real power in that)? The answer is simple, and I will try to make it as simple as can be for you to understand.
NO

What will happen in case of a salary-cap?

It is not always more wisely to spend on fewer salary, when you make a bigger initial investment(+ a bigger decline in player value).
With a salary cap it would be the way to go, so those salary optimated player get more expensiv and people who buy championship today will also do it in the future.

We will start at the end.
1) You ADMITTED that the case is there - richer teams are buying their championship!!!
They will always be richer, as they joined earlier than others. [At least until they will leave the game]

2) The richer teams could do that today as well, so this rule didn't changed anything about that.

3) If it will change, and those teams will fight over those players, they will basically pay much more (as those players value will rise to the roof) for less.
Guess what does that means about their money dominance in the future...

4) There is a salary-cap in the NBA, and on other leagues, and it works.
Without it, the Knicks would have been to the final every season.

The problem with the less competivness as you call it is also a artefact from the past, and is solving itself atm.

Do you mean as it is on YOUR league?
Where the order of team (last time I've checked), was exactly upon order of joining the game!!!

Also i doubt, that a online game, with very limited possibilities of interaction will have a future with your weird merging of nations. Even if i overall agree, that merging some nations together will help a lot, but this should be done with looking at languages, tip off times etc. that you could interact with your league mates and your "BB-nation".

No one said that those BB-nations will be created with no thought.
There BB-nation will be created uopn language, areas etc.
On current state, loosing the few BB-nations with those 10-20 users is such a law risk, that not taking action is just a mistake (I wanted to use a more proper word, but it is not proper to the forum...).
Not acting is an action of doing nothing and observing the deterioration in process...

I don't like the thread that much, since it brings nothing new and just makes it necessary to explain stuff the X time.

Bummer for you...
This thread allows user to put any thought related to what blocks this game from growing.
Why didn't you brought any alternative?!?

This thread was designed to be the platform for users to share their opinion about what prevents the game from growing, and what is the main things that can be done in order of assisting it to grow.

It is a dissappointment, although not a real amazement, to see that there was not a single suggestion about that from all the other users who wrote here (GMs, LAs, and others).

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