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From: dhoff

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Date: 2/10/2009 7:17:18 PM
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i don't like the head to head thing, in combination of game shape and enthusiam management where you have often set prioritieson the long run it is fair, but in this case the opponent in that week become to improtant ...

I don't understand this at all. If you beat someone in the head-to-head matchups, particularly if there's a home and home, then you're the better team and deserve the higher seed.

So i believe the point sbetter represent the overall performance in league.

With so little control over a team's performance in garbage time, I think this is a pretty horrible indicator.

From: docend24

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Date: 2/10/2009 8:20:39 PM
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His point is that schedule would become more important and I agree. Also you sometimes couldn't tell who you would be tied with so the effort in the relevant games would be a problem - it could be decided by luck whether you play strong lineup with solid effort or not by a chance (assuming there is notie if the head-to-head would be 1-1, then points differential from those two games logically comes as second criterium).

Managers with better micromanagement are rewarded by current tiebraker, with head-to-heads they wouldn't.

Despite the problematic garbage time yu have pretty much good control over your score (points for and points against).

From: Heathcoat

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I don't understand this at all. If you beat someone in the head-to-head matchups, particularly if there's a home and home, then you're the better team and deserve the higher seed.


Does this mean that if an 18-4 beats a 20-2 team twice they should get the seed? No, because the overall performance throughout the season of the 20-2 team was better. I know we are talking about tie-breakers, but the logic is the same with points differential, imo.


Last edited by Heathcoat at 2/10/2009 10:21:01 PM

From: dhoff

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Date: 2/10/2009 10:41:57 PM
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I don't understand this at all. If you beat someone in the head-to-head matchups, particularly if there's a home and home, then you're the better team and deserve the higher seed.


Does this mean that if an 18-4 beats a 20-2 team twice they should get the seed? No, because the overall performance throughout the season of the 20-2 team was better. I know we are talking about tie-breakers, but the logic is the same with points differential, imo.


Obviously the answer is no. The most important thing is overall win/loss record. The number of points a team wins by is, frankly, insignificant in my opinion. And I realize that's just my opinion.

If the BBs are going to keep point differential as the tiebreaker, then I think it's pretty important that they implement a "run up the score" option.

From: Heathcoat

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Date: 2/10/2009 10:44:46 PM
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If the BBs are going to keep point differential as the tiebreaker, then I think it's pretty important that they implement a "run up the score" option.


100% behind you on this

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71584.33 in reply to 71584.32
Date: 2/10/2009 10:59:49 PM
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how about walkovers are 75-0.

i cant imagine a bigger blowout than that.

really. (i once lost by 70 points in a game i was clearly not interested in winning)

From: CrazyEye

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Date: 2/11/2009 4:15:00 AM
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the other teams have also problems to "destroy" opponents, so it takes on a way fair only the last games become a bit silly. because you stop scoring, before you have the necessary points but this could happen in a head to head comparision too, even when the chanche isn't that high.

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71584.35 in reply to 71584.26
Date: 2/11/2009 7:51:48 AM
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Doing it plus/minus points seems really odd to me - is that how they do it in Europe or something?

That's how they do it just about anywhere under FIBA rules.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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Date: 3/16/2009 7:22:46 PM
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When you or your opponent don't lineup enough players and the match is cancelled...

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71584.38 in reply to 71584.10
Date: 3/19/2009 7:27:23 AM
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I do.

I disagree with them, if you didn't notice.
Your disagreement is on a personal level and is not of much interest.
But on the other hand: The ones that like to walk far away from Internet whole summer through, need to be sure that all lineups that might be broken by injuries, will not make too much damage.

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