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From: Huzzel
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Date: 1/18/2008 2:23:30 PM
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i dont know what WFU03 (who started this very helpful thread) thinks about it. but I believe post like this does not help at all:
first week of handling for PG..
trainer level: 9
20 years-old 1.80 trainee: mediocre ---> average
22 years-old 1.83 trainee: average ---> respectable

We do not know what sublevels those players had. so training handling might take only 1 week, or if those players had a high sublevel before, it might take 10 weeks to get a pop,



Posts like this however are really helpful:
I've been training RB since 30 November (with one week off for stamina). Based on my results, the RB training is accurate for players over 20. It is much faster (about 1-2 weeks) for players 20 and younger.

I have been training the same 4 guys the entire time, and my results are as follows:


the longer u train the some players wiht one training type the more informations we can get out of it.

@moutlinho: no offense against u. Your post was just an example, in this thread are hundreds of other post i could have also used as an example

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Date: 1/18/2008 2:45:59 PM
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I've been training ID (C only) for 4 weeks now (trainer level 10):
a) 19y old 7'4" trainee popped every(!) week in ID (3 to 7)
b) 20y old 6'10" trainee popped 3 times in ID (6 to 9)
c) 21y old 6'10" trainee popped 2 times in ID (8 to 10)
Player c has very low SB, so this might slow down his training a little.
Every week two of them played 48 minutes, one of them came close to it (>40), the first week each had 48 minutes. I rotated the one with <48 minutes to train them equally.

Each of them had one pop in IS and SB, but no pops in Driving.

So you can definitively add:

Inside Defense
C:
Trains ID @ 1-2 weeks

Edited by hariberto (1/18/2008 3:19:01 PM CET)

Last edited by hariberto at 1/18/2008 3:19:01 PM

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Date: 1/18/2008 6:07:13 PM
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Anyone found a difference between outside shooting and jump shot?

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Date: 1/18/2008 7:48:15 PM
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read the first post of this thread. who will find the difference there

From: Shoei
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Date: 1/18/2008 9:34:51 PM
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for me i just trained my sg playing sf to inside shot

his 19 yrs old with a level 4 trainer, guess what just the 1st week his IS already pop!

funny, as much as im reading a lot here i cant seem to get a idea of how much time or weeks should be said, especially the secondary skills.

all i have experience so far, because ever since i was all training pg,sg and sf that if you train them in driving youll get results in jump shot and handling.

others as you said if you train IS, you get rebs and inside D? i have yet to see this on myself.

lastly training benefits players 25 and lower better so im thinking maybe just sell your old and get young ones hehehe.

i havent tried getting a trainer at level 6 and up but im tempted now. my level 4 guy is still level 4 for many weeks now

Edited by CoolCat (1/18/2008 9:35:27 PM CET)

Last edited by Shoei at 1/18/2008 9:35:27 PM

From: Shoei

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also i got a power forward training in inside shot

guess what on his 1st week he pops on jump shot?

really makes me think, if he was training put in's, lay ups ( some say inside shot is ), banking shots, guess he does short jump shots

oh his 21 yrs old.


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Date: 1/18/2008 11:03:59 PM
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Well it appears they both train the same thing, just one has an option to do only SG's

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Date: 1/19/2008 3:29:18 PM
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also i got a power forward training in inside shot

guess what on his 1st week he pops on jump shot?

really makes me think, if he was training put in's, lay ups ( some say inside shot is ), banking shots, guess he does short jump shots

oh his 21 yrs old.



This is useless information, since your players who popped in the 1st week of your trainings methods might have higer subskills already. This player was maybe around 80% to his next pop, but you can't see neither now that. With your last training he maybe got and extra 33% which made him pop.

So you can't say anything about the training speeds when it's the 1st week of training. Pops or not. You need to estimate the time between his 1st and his 2nd pop on that skills, and that may be more accuraty.

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Date: 1/19/2008 6:32:14 PM
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Sorry if you felt I attacked you but a few guys in this thread already mentioned what is usefull information (this one f.e (381.284)) and what is not. This thread is not about posting every weeks training results.

Btw there is no need to swear here, I just pointed out that why this thread is already 200 posts long.

Its better to tell how many weeks it took to pop one player for the second time.

Edited by PatjeBono (1/19/2008 6:40:48 PM CET)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/19/2008 6:40:48 PM

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