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From: Mr. Glass

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I didnt say every player. i said the pf. As the ball is moving around. it creates a harder offense to stop. If a manager is watchng you and the Pg get 30 and sg get 24, he is going to try pin them down. But if the Sf and Pf can drop 24 /30. as well He wont know what to do. Its not about everyboody scoring 25pts. It team flow, Anybody can explode,

Cancling each other is a myth is a my opinion. Me personally , i would care if they both got 15pts when they are worth 40 pt a piece. The more people scoring the better in my opinion. The more weapon you have, the better you play and set up for teams. I trust in the best players making the bad player better. Thats my motto


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great analysis.

it is nice to discuss some BB issues here that need an overhaul, but as you said, those issues are not the main reason users are leaving. your argument seems way more plausible.

i hope some BB-'s will read it and think about it

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One of the historical best teams in USA D.I is the Silverbacks. They've won 3 titles, including one more recently in Season 22.

Here are the two Finals games for that season
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So it is doable.

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Its Pg/sf duo the pf being the kicker.. Theres a way the sg can become a decoy more than a actual factor.

I think teams/managers mess players up playing them at un natural positions. I think only player that can swap are sg/pg. The rest need to stay natural. I have tried looking for a edge it only work from a bench perspective.

I understand motion./r&g/princeton. very well and driving aspect your talking about. but I use Pait/r&g/ptb/ and outside shooting :). these attack the defense better. A dynamic sf can pass, drive and shoot, defense. you see where Im going with it, yes he is costly but on highest level. I think it can be afforded .

Princeton can be figured out very well, this why i omit it from my bases. Some have success with it and I hope it continues. But I pick those 4 because it lets players create a shot it also requires good passing, and also attack the stamina of the foe. Which I think is a factor in games.. Which I think create more chance of a mismatch with Od being a so godly valued.. Cant play tired.

I think a lot people mold players from LI and this is why they don't perform so well. MY opinion. A hybrid to me is player who can many play tactics. His skill will reverse he role naturally within the tactics. I think don't thinks its player playing sf and center. ON BB of course.

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He can always run LI. With prediction he could not run motion every game anymore. All teams need to swap princeton/LI or motion/LI now because of prediction, making it a rock-paper game. This actually hurts outside teams more than inside teams if you think about it. Not in terms of winning, but in terms of building a resume of shooting games. Well then again, an LI vs. 2-3 with good shooters will probably give you better 3pt % than motion against 3-2.


Absolutely.

This isn't anything official because I know nothing more with the GM title than I did before, but I fully believe based on quite a few seasons of Princeton with big men I built specifically to play Princeton that there's something fundamentally wrong with the algorithm for calculating the percentage of hitting jump shots and three point shots. The main problem is that "open' shots (i.e., ones which would generate an assist, rather than having a defender contest it) certainly seem like they're opposed by the opponent's team OD. If you have high OD at every position, even shots that are open are still very low percentage. So basically, OD gets you steals, helps contest outside shots and then even if the shot is open, still depresses the shooting percentage to the point where it's depressing.

Of course, if you have high enough JS/JR, you can overcome that - which can certainly be done in the lower levels of the game, but as the level of competition increases, the cost of higher shooting (both JS and JR) grows much higher than the cost of higher OD, both in training time and in salary expense.

It's simply unfortunate for me that I would rather see my PF (only 11 JS/8 JR) take a three guarded by an opposing PF than I would see my best outside shooters take "open" shots. Same thing with jumpers, too - I had several players who shot better on guarded jump shots than uncontested ones, and that even included guards against other guards.

In terms of prediction, yeah, it killed my desire to run Princeton exclusively (though the 3-2 was already proving sufficient to cripple it most nights). There's still push the ball and the isolations (if I had built stronger offense on my bigs, maybe an inside iso would work), but it's still falling prey to the same fundamental flaw - assisted inside shots are very high percentage (usually), contested inside shots are still pretty high, and then unless you have a mismatch you're likely to shoot very low.

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