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From: Shoei

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381.289 in reply to 381.288
Date: 1/18/2008 9:48:28 PM
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also i got a power forward training in inside shot

guess what on his 1st week he pops on jump shot?

really makes me think, if he was training put in's, lay ups ( some say inside shot is ), banking shots, guess he does short jump shots

oh his 21 yrs old.


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Well it appears they both train the same thing, just one has an option to do only SG's

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Date: 1/19/2008 3:29:18 PM
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also i got a power forward training in inside shot

guess what on his 1st week he pops on jump shot?

really makes me think, if he was training put in's, lay ups ( some say inside shot is ), banking shots, guess he does short jump shots

oh his 21 yrs old.



This is useless information, since your players who popped in the 1st week of your trainings methods might have higer subskills already. This player was maybe around 80% to his next pop, but you can't see neither now that. With your last training he maybe got and extra 33% which made him pop.

So you can't say anything about the training speeds when it's the 1st week of training. Pops or not. You need to estimate the time between his 1st and his 2nd pop on that skills, and that may be more accuraty.

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Date: 1/19/2008 6:32:14 PM
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Sorry if you felt I attacked you but a few guys in this thread already mentioned what is usefull information (this one f.e (381.284)) and what is not. This thread is not about posting every weeks training results.

Btw there is no need to swear here, I just pointed out that why this thread is already 200 posts long.

Its better to tell how many weeks it took to pop one player for the second time.

Edited by PatjeBono (1/19/2008 6:40:48 PM CET)

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/19/2008 6:40:48 PM

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does TIE, Normal, and CT affect the training results?

for example, ID is being trained at centers, my young center (A) played 40 minutes in two games both in CT...

does another center (B) who also trains ID and plays 40 minutes in two games, both in normal mode, get the same result?

also, after two games in CT, does player A gonna be gaining something after the following week wherein he plays 2 40-minute games in TIE? still in ID training...

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does TIE, Normal, and CT affect the training results?


No.

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Date: 1/20/2008 12:33:09 AM
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Passing
PG:
Trains PS @ ?
Trains HN @ ?
Trains DV @ ?


I had passing pops in consecutive weeks on 2 of my 3 trainees (aged 18 and 19, the other one (19) popped once), level 10 trainer, training PG only. So I think that would nail down 1-2 weeks for PS.

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Date: 1/25/2008 7:09:52 PM
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Rebounding
C/PF:

Trains RB @ 2-3 weeks
Trains ID @ 4-5 weeks
Trains IS @ 4-5 weeks

After 8 weeks, of rebounding training, I have a trifle more information than I had here (381.266), but not much. My training since the 23rd of November has looked like this:

11/30 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/7 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/14 Team Stamina (9)
12/20 Rebounding C/PF (9)
12/27 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/3 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/10 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/17 Rebounding C/PF (8)
1/24 Rebounding C/PF (8)

My trainees, all of whom get better than 48min/wk and who have (thankfully) been injury-free:

19yo: (~1.75wks/lvl)
11/30 respectable RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 strong RB
1/3 proficient RB
1/17 prominent RB
1/24 prolific RB

20yo: (~1.75 wks/lvl)
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/20 respectable RB
1/3 strong RB, respectable IS
1/10 proficient RB
1/24 prominent RB

23yo: (~2.3 wks/lvl)
11/30 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
12/27 respectable RB
1/10 strong RB
1/24 proficient RB

24yo: (~2.5 wks/lvl)
12/7 average RB
(12/14 stamina)
1/3 respectable RB
1/17 strong RB

So the primary of RB has a slight variance with age, ranging from <2 wks/lvl for a 19-20yo, up to about 2.5wks/lvl for a 24yo. The secondaries, however, are quite disheartening, and all the hope of the first post here is shot to hell by my results.

In 8 weeks, only one player has popped in IS, and none of my guys have seen an increase in ID. So the chart should look more like this:

Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 1-3 weeks
Trains IS @ ???
Trains ID @ ???


Edited by darykjozef (1/25/2008 7:12:44 PM CET)

Last edited by darykjozef at 1/25/2008 7:12:44 PM

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